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partyhopper
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No offence but the media coverage on these deaths is fucking rediculasly stupid, yea i feel sorry for the poor guys family. But its a "war," the fuck do people think it is. Their only way to have any leverage over us is to make every death seem 100000000x worse then it is. I don't think ive EVER seen the media cover one of out bombs wipeing out 100's of civilians, none of you could give a shit about that. We could nuke them, and none of you could give a flying fuck. And its not like we treat our prisioners like kings either.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq
Min Max
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If your gonna rant about something let it be that, and not the 1 death you see on tv.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/dog.html
08/19/02 "WAG THE GASSED DOG" This is the purest war propaganda. One video of what may be Osama bin Laden plus a video of a dog being gassed which could have been created anywhere equals the US sinking to new lows trying to manufacture support for a war nobody but the oil companies want. This dog-video reminds me of Hill & Knowlton's much ballyhooed claim that Iraqi troops were stealing incubators from Kuwait hospitals and leaving premature babies to die on the floor. That was a hoax to sell a war. And until proven otherwise, the safest course is to assume this latest "shock video" is just another hoax by the public relations firms which grow rich and fat off of your tax dollars by lying to you for the US Government. Anonymous US officials have declared this to be "unquestionable" evidence that al Qaeda has chemical weapons. I find it very questionable. For one thing, compare the quality of the dog video with that of the famous Osama "confession" tape or even the most recent Osama tape. Why does a dog get much better video quality than the boss? Add to that the cuteness of the dog, as if intentionally selected by central casting to provoke the greatest feelings of sympathy in the viewer, instead of just grabbing any old mangy stray mongrel to use in such a test. Yes, this video is shocking, but the shock is intended to shock people past questioning the claims of where the video came from. All day long the media have been blasting the "Arabs kill puppy dogs" story all over the airwaves, trying to create a linkage between Arabs and chemical weapons where none can be proven to factually exist. Given the sensitization to chemical weapons contained in this media barrage, I have to wonder if the next stage provocation, intended to further the war against Iraq, will also involve chemical weapons.
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BitchBoyNYC
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: The Big Apple
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| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
No offence but the media coverage on these deaths is fucking rediculasly stupid, yea i feel sorry for the poor guys family. But its a "war," the fuck do people think it is. Their only way to have any leverage over us is to make every death seem 100000000x worse then it is. I don't think ive EVER seen the media cover one of out bombs wipeing out 100's of civilians, none of you could give a shit about that. We could nuke them, and none of you could give a flying fuck. And its not like we treat our prisioners like kings either.
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
Civilians reported killed by military intervention in Iraq
Min Max
9436 11317
If your gonna rant about something let it be that, and not the 1 death you see on tv.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/dog.html
08/19/02 "WAG THE GASSED DOG" This is the purest war propaganda. One video of what may be Osama bin Laden plus a video of a dog being gassed which could have been created anywhere equals the US sinking to new lows trying to manufacture support for a war nobody but the oil companies want. This dog-video reminds me of Hill & Knowlton's much ballyhooed claim that Iraqi troops were stealing incubators from Kuwait hospitals and leaving premature babies to die on the floor. That was a hoax to sell a war. And until proven otherwise, the safest course is to assume this latest "shock video" is just another hoax by the public relations firms which grow rich and fat off of your tax dollars by lying to you for the US Government. Anonymous US officials have declared this to be "unquestionable" evidence that al Qaeda has chemical weapons. I find it very questionable. For one thing, compare the quality of the dog video with that of the famous Osama "confession" tape or even the most recent Osama tape. Why does a dog get much better video quality than the boss? Add to that the cuteness of the dog, as if intentionally selected by central casting to provoke the greatest feelings of sympathy in the viewer, instead of just grabbing any old mangy stray mongrel to use in such a test. Yes, this video is shocking, but the shock is intended to shock people past questioning the claims of where the video came from. All day long the media have been blasting the "Arabs kill puppy dogs" story all over the airwaves, trying to create a linkage between Arabs and chemical weapons where none can be proven to factually exist. Given the sensitization to chemical weapons contained in this media barrage, I have to wonder if the next stage provocation, intended to further the war against Iraq, will also involve chemical weapons. |
Lee, this was a simple R.I.P. Thread in memory of Paul Johnson. If you didn't want to post an RIP message, you shouldn't of posted at all. Yeah, I agree the media coverage is ridiculous and I agree that the murders they committ need to be 100000000X worse so they feel that they have some leverage. But to attempt to compare death by be-heading and death by being bombed, now that's rediculous. They cut the guys head off with a knife, and not with one shot like a sword. They cut it off like someone would slice a piece of steak. So don't say that it SEEMS a 10000000x worse, because it is 100000000X worse than being bombed. And yes, killing civilians by bombing is wrong and not justified, but is expected when at war. That's a big misfortune of any war. America probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. Bush stuck his nose into something that shouldn't have concerened him. He should have pulled out our troops a long time ago. But leave those topics for the Political Forum. Just don't go assuming that I don't give a shit about civilian casualties or I wouldn't give a fuck if we nuked them. Nukes aren't the answer. Nukes would just make everything worse. I do know that as a proud American, when news like this breaks, it bothers me to see it. Just like I could empathize with anyone from Irag that has lost a citizen of their country because of American bombs. I would say <1% of the people there fall into the category that I myself deem as barbarians. All of them shouldn't be held accountable for what's going on. Last, I will agree with you that not all Americans are saints either.
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sandstorm03
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| quote: | | Lee, this was a simple R.I.P. Thread in memory of Paul Johnson. If you didn't want to post an RIP message, you shouldn't of posted at all. Yeah, I agree the media coverage is ridiculous and I agree that the murders they committ need to be 100000000X worse so they feel that they have some leverage. But to attempt to compare death by be-heading and death by being bombed, now that's rediculous. They cut the guys head off with a knife, and not with one shot like a sword. They cut it off like someone would slice a piece of steak. So don't say that it SEEMS a 10000000x worse, because it is 100000000X worse than being bombed. And yes, killing civilians by bombing is wrong and not justified, but is expected when at war. That's a big misfortune of any war. America probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. Bush stuck his nose into something that shouldn't have concerened him. He should have pulled out our troops a long time ago. But leave those topics for the Political Forum. Just don't go assuming that I don't give a shit about civilian casualties or I wouldn't give a fuck if we nuked them. Nukes aren't the answer. Nukes would just make everything worse. I do know that as a proud American, when news like this breaks, it bothers me to see it. Just like I could empathize with anyone from Irag that has lost a citizen of their country because of American bombs. I would say <1% of the people there fall into the category that I myself deem as barbarians. All of them shouldn't |
yep i understand i wasn't flameing u or anything. Yesterday alone i got a million im's saying "I wanna murder all of thoes mother fuckin towel heads....Why dont they use thoes towels for a real purpose..." and so on, which is just stupid. People just way over react when stuff liek this happends. A lot of it is only to get more support for the "war."
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