Well I had this thread in the DJ promotions forum before. But I've gotten some research done thanks to the feedback I recieved, and now I have a new question:
Comparing the prices of dual CDJ 100's, and one Denon DN-S5000, and they are pretty close. Can one DN-S5000 be a perfect substitute for two CD player's like they claim? Or maybe I should go with the DN D9000, (which is a dual CD player)?
Moreover, if I do get a Denon product, should I go with a Denon mixer? Somebody please inform me of my ignorance...
Mainly, I just don't see the point of putting down $1000 on some semi-decent equipment, only to want to upgrade to pro equipment later...

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Youre fine with a non denon mixer, and a denon cd player. I prefer denon cd players and vestax mixers.

Mixing with a dns5000 is very possible, you can control, and cue the alpha track (and loop i think) i would guess it would be a bit of a pain in the ass.

Mixing with 2 cdj100s would be more instantly gratifying, but youll find yourself wanting to upgrade pretty quickly. The main reason is that the have 0.1 pitch, while the dns5000 has 0.02. So i would spend the money on 1 dns5000, and tough it out until you can get a second one.

Once you do have a second 1, youll have 2 great cd players with 4 samplers (each one has 2 samplers) A bunch of hot cues, and each having an alpha track (this would be like mixing on 4 decks, great if youre into techno) And accurate pitch.

You might want to look into getting 2 dns3000s, they are much cheaper than a dns5000.. It only has 1 sampler, and no alpha track though, but the important thing is that it has 0.02 pitch.

Cdj800 is also an option, its about the same price as a dns3000, no sampler, or spinning platter, and less accurate pitch (0.05) You might prefer its feel though.

EDIT: When i was getting my setup, i was considering getting 1 dns5000, and waiting a looong time to get a second one, or getting a pair of dns3000s. I went with the pair of 3000s.

Man... I've been on litterally all day researching my options. The more I research, the more overwhelmed I feel with my posibilities.
AAAAARRRG!

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Mixing on one S5000 would be an option, but it's a pain. You'd have to burn your cd's in a particular way (ie can't really mix in and out your cd's).

Personally I think you're better off getting a dual cd player, like the D9000 you mentioned, or the Pioneer CMX 3000 - so unless you're really into scratching, those are fine for mixing.

And 0.05 pitch accuracy (ie CDJ-800) is fine IMO, unless you're doing very long seamless house/prog house mixes. And for a grand you can get two new CDJ-800s off Ebay (although without the full-on warranty since they're not authorized dealers), but still that's a good deal, and Pioneer stuff is generally very solid quality-wise. You can also contact a TA here (DJ Tranz); he may hook you up with some nice deals...

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Thank you guys for your feedback. After all this time, I think I'm going to go with the DN D9000.
Although, I'm still unsure about the mixer... lol. Maybe I'll just get the DN X800... it has some added features for Denon decks, or am I mistaken?

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Originally posted by Trunker Man... I've been on litterally all day researching my options. The more I research, the more overwhelmed I feel with my posibilities. AAAAARRRG!

Why do you want CDJ's? Theres not really alot of tunes available on cd...your better off with 2 technics MK2's and a Vestax PCV 275

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Originally posted by Trunker Can one DN-S5000 be a perfect substitute for two CD player's like they claim?

Beats and beeps: How come everybody gets all wrapped up if the display shows the pitch in 0,1%? Who says that the pitch can't be more accurate then the display is showing? (e.g. Numark TTX, CDX, etc.)

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Originally posted by DjVash Beats and beeps: How come everybody gets all wrapped up if the display shows the pitch in 0,1%? Who says that the pitch can't be more accurate then the display is showing? (e.g. Numark TTX, CDX, etc.)

i always thought the cdx had a 0.1% increment..? if not how precise is it?

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Originally posted by starlabs And 0.05 pitch accuracy (ie CDJ-800) is fine IMO, unless you're doing very long seamless house/prog house mixes. And for a grand you can get two new CDJ-800s off Ebay (although without the full-on warranty since they're not authorized dealers), but still that's a good deal, and Pioneer stuff is generally very solid quality-wise. You can also contact a TA here (DJ Tranz); he may hook you up with some nice deals...

Just to let you know I got a pair of CDJ-1000's for 1000$ on ebay its like buy 1 get 1 free!

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Originally posted by DjVash Beats and beeps: How come everybody gets all wrapped up if the display shows the pitch in 0,1%? Who says that the pitch can't be more accurate then the display is showing? (e.g. Numark TTX, CDX, etc.)

Because it is a digital deck, not analog. With cd players the pitch increases by the percentage shown in your display. If you have it set on the widest range, there will not be any change in pitch when you move the slide just a bit until the next increment is made. This is why people can say their 1200s are more accurate than any cd player on the market.

With TTX you have analog pitch, with a digital display, thats why it can be more accurate than the display shows. The display is just rounding it. The CDX is digital, so 0.1 is as accurate as you can get.

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Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY Why do you want CDJ's? Theres not really alot of tunes available on cd...your better off with 2 technics MK2's and a Vestax PCV 275

I want CDJ's for one main reason: I CAN MIX MY OWN STUFF. Unless you know of a way to get my music on vinyl, I don't really have another option.

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Originally posted by starlabs You can also contact a TA here (DJ Tranz); he may hook you up with some nice deals...

Yea, I'd recommend e-mailing DJ Tranz to see what he can do for you. He hooked me up nicely with a new mixer and some monster cables at a nice TA discount.