Why do people bash oakenfold?

Eventually all of the high end djs get flipped off by people who like to think they know alot about the industry, or whatever.

Hell, James Zabiela used to be some big amazing hero, but now people are already starting to bash him, saying that he doesnt deserve the place hes in because other djs have done what everybody is making a big deal out of him doing.

(although i must admit, him cutting a deal with pioneer is pretty lame...)

He's not, nor has he ever been #1 because he's "that good". He plays pop music, happened to do it at the right time, and has a marketing team that could turn my grandmother into a pop star in six weeks. He's #1 because he's more popular, not because he's a better DJ. You don't know what you're talking about. I doubt you could name a DJ who actually knows what he's doing. Tiesto is bad even for a trance DJ. Playing tracks end to end with one minute of mixing is bad enough but tiesto can't even beatmatch. People bash him because he sucks, simple fact.

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Can the Music Discussion stop revolving around Tiesto, Armin, and Paul van Dyk

That’s great you love Tiesto but there is much more to dance music than these three mega stars.

I've been on this board a short time but I am getting tired of reading about the same shit over and over.


Please let’s talk about the vast world of electronic music.

If you can’t control yourself then these websites can help you further your crusade:

www.tiesto.com
www.paulvandyk.de
www.arminvanbuuren.com

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If Tiesto can mix but doesn't, why doesn't he? Sasha plays the same amount of gigs, ya don't see him screwing up as often, do you? Actually he doesn't screw up at all.

I'll tell you, in just two words...

Personal Opinion

Hm, what's this about Zab cutting a deal with Pioneer? Tell meh more.

Pretty simple. Technically, he is terrible.

I always rip that, but defend his programming and track selection. That's what made him big. I don't like his sets as much anymore (programming wise), but at least he has variance in his sets. But he is so awful technically that I get frustrated. I don't wanna pay $40 (or nothing even) to see a guy trainwreck and come in abrupt with bass cancellations. Sasha, Sander K, Hernan Cattaneo, Digweed, Max Graham, and IMO Armin at least mix well and bring some variety to their sets, most times. Why aren't they ranked higher than him. Because he's commercial and appeals to the masses, especially younger, undeveloped listeners.

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Originally posted by idoru I'll tell you, in just two words... Personal Opinion

haha yeah i was going to say the same thing..

before this thread turns into a flamewar, Coffee, you have to realize that most (if not all) threads are just opinions... that is all.

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Originally posted by Ory If Tiesto can mix but doesn't, why doesn't he? Sasha plays the same amount of gigs, ya don't see him screwing up as often, do you? Actually he doesn't screw up at all.

True.

I hate when these groupies come on a forum to tell the world that their favorite DJ can mix but doesn’t show it because they are lazy.

Fuck it that’s the case than every DJ is Sasha but they are just to lazy to show it


come on for someone who is dedicating their teenage life to hype a DJ you need a better excuse than this.

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Originally posted by Radagast He plays pop music,

I will give Tiesto this...his sets differ more than most of the DJ's that I have seen live. With some of the others I can almost predict what they will spin. I say this because I am still a bit stunned from his set two months ago when we couldn't ID over half of his set. He only played two vocal tracks and they were at the beginning of his set (Find & I Found U). The rest was non-vocal trance and I loved it. He didn't play any well known Tiesto tracks except for Nyana or any (crowd favorite) tracks that you just knew would get the dance floor going. Yet his set was one of the best that I had ever heard live. His track selection that night was anything but "pop music". Is he my favorite DJ? No. Is he capable of playing a set as good if not better than anyone else's? Yes. Not too many DJ's can walk into a room and throw down a set with over half of it not being able to be ID'd by the people there and still have the room stand there and stare at you in awe. I have to give props where props is due.

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Originally posted by Mebot haha yeah i was going to say the same thing.. before this thread turns into a flamewar, Coffee, you have to realize that most (if not all) threads are just opinions... that is all.

yes.. ok.. well I never said tiesto is my idol. I did say I dont listening to him often.. I was just saying.. I dont think he sucks..
I mean he is a big NO HUGE draw card.. he can pack raves with 30.000 people with his name on the bill... now its either all those listers dont know shit about trance or actually he has some fans..
yes he is a commerical dj.. but people of the world ar enot that stupid.. they know talent when they see it.. and the person who said his grandmother could be a superstar in 6 weeks.. come on man..
you dont get to be number 1 and pack out areas becuase you are garbage! he doesnt go off.. becuase he doesnt have too.. he does a job.. he is now a show pony.. a big star..
IM not saying he is the best dj around.. I have personal favorites IMO kick all over tiesto.. but you all may think different..
im just trying to say.. tiesto is not that bad..