well, why even have weoponds?

Nuclear weapons give a country instant clout.

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You have to be ready to defend yourself from other countries.

It's like a discussion. Sometimes another person might challange you over a certain topic. That's when you have to bring out your heavy artillery to defend yourself and attack the other individual. You should always be ready.

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Originally posted by ierxium You have to be ready to defend yourself from other countries. It's like a discussion. Sometimes another person might challange you over a certain topic. That's when you have to bring out your heavy artillery to defend yourself and attack the other individual. You should always be ready.

but if we get rid of nucleur weapons, there is nobody to fear of being attacked. you could say, it is to defend yourself, but why is that country having them if they arent planning a war, and the other country, etc.

i guess it'll never happen. there's probably going to be one more world war, sometime in the future. and the only way its going to end is in the destruction of the earth.

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pretty simple. because the other guy does.

The two real reasons:

You don't trust the other guy.
Deterence.

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There is an old roman proverb that has been overused quite often :

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

1) The readiness dissuades attacks that weakness on the other hand could invite, thus keeping the peace

2) The readiness of war may convince the weak to yield to the strong without a fight

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: but if we get rid of nucleur weapons, there is nobody to fear of being attacked. you could say, it is to defend yourself, but why is that country having them if they arent planning a war, and the other country, etc.

In the case of North Korea and Iran, it makes a lot of sense for them to obtain nuclear weapons. They were singled out along with Iraq by Warmonger Bush a couple of years ago, and since then Iraq has been invaded by him. Clearly, an onslaught by the US army cannot easily be held back, and the sensible thing is therefore to have a nuke to deter Bush from attacking. If I were in charge in Iran or North Korea I would pool all resources into getting a nuke, as that would be the only thing that could ensure the survival of my reign.

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Originally posted by ierxium We like war. We like to conquer. We like to dominate. It's just how it is.

"We" as in "the US"?

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Originally posted by trancaholic In the case of North Korea and Iran, it makes a lot of sense for them to obtain nuclear weapons. They were singled out along with Iraq by Warmonger Bush a couple of years ago, and since then Iraq has been invaded by him. Clearly, an onslaught by the US army cannot easily be held back, and the sensible thing is therefore to have a nuke to deter Bush from attacking. If I were in charge in Iran or North Korea I would pool all resources into getting a nuke, as that would be the only thing that could ensure the survival of my reign.

Yea that might be a nice theory if the timeline would actually be right.

The reality is Bush called North Korea and Iran evil because they were pursuing nuclear weapons. Iran and North Korea did NOT pursue nuclear weapons because Bush called them evil.


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We as in world, look at the history of this planet. Since the dawn of man there has been one war after another with little peace.

North Korea doesn't need a nuclear weapon, they have 1million+ men who could easily destroy seoul before any American troops could get there. That is deterence enough. Remember they started the last war, if anyone needs deterence it is the South Koreans, not the North.

There are different reasons for creating them as we have seen in our history from using as a deterrence, to gain clout, to receive aid, to assure destruction, to end a war quickly with less casualties, to incite fear, etc.

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