It is quite simple, it is nature. No different than fires, earthquakes, landslides, mudslides, volcanos, hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. They happen because we live on this place called earth which is ever changing and goes through cycles. Humans are just along for the ride like every other creature. If there is a better place to live then I challenge anyone to find it.
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Jan-09-2005 22:29
sensorium
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Registered: Jun 2004
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Damn religions. Confusing the hell and heaven out of people. Jesus!
I read the article, none of the explanations made sense to me. Maybe it's my poor English.
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Jan-09-2005 22:29
zig
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Dublin,Ireland
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Originally posted by Yoepus
But if he'd explain it, who says you'd beleive Him?
if he appeared before me like an apperition and explained it to me id probably believe him..thats if i didnt get a heart attack in the process..
Jan-09-2005 22:34
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC
Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
Damn religions. Confusing the hell and heaven out of people. Jesus!
I read the article, none of the explanations made sense to me. Maybe it's my poor English.
i think most of them kinda made sense, at least as much sense as religion can do... the only one that didnt make sense at all was the chrisitan one...
Jan-09-2005 22:49
sensorium
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location:
People rely too much on religion. No, that's not it. They expect too much out of religion. That may be it. Most don't know their religions that well, so maybe that's why they expect a lot from them. Let's face it, few people care to be really into a certain religion, myself included.
If I wanted an explanation from a certain religion for what happened on Asia, I wouldn't go to a simple person that may or may not know enough about his/her religion. Chances are s/he is as confused as the rest of the world. What is needed is the explanation or explanations of experts in their given religion. There are very few of them left. You need their take on all this. Their doubts are clearer.
In conclusion, I don't like pie. I tasted different flavors and didn't like them. I don't need to go to my religion to seek an explanation for this. There are things in life, like my dislike of pie in this case, that don't need religion.
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Jan-09-2005 23:04
zig
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Dublin,Ireland
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Originally posted by St_Andrew
i think most of them kinda made sense, at least as much sense as religion can do... the only one that didnt make sense at all was the chrisitan one...
they all definatly made sense in the confines of their own particular religious beliefs..but in a broader context..ie reality..they didnt..but thats whats its all about i guess where you find comfort in tragic circumstances
Jan-09-2005 23:06
Subey
Her Soul Mate
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: The corner where 'l' resolves into '<'
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Originally posted by zig
If god could make sense of this i wish he would explain it to me..
You live on earth. The dominant religion on YOUR planet is Christianity.
In that religion God spent some time on earth. During his stay he was tortured and murdered. Obviously life has an element of suffering in it
The most quoted saying of a non "revealed" religion is from Buddha
who expouses the 4 NOBLE truths. The first noble truth is Dukkha: All existence is unsatisfactory and filled with suffering.
The divine is obviously AWARE of these things. Obviously they must be integral to reality.
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What's the point of all this suffering then? I'll merely point you to a contemporary manifestation of the answer...
The most important scene in Fight Club: Tyler Durden pours a rather corossive substance on the narrator's arm. The narrator is obviously in a great deal of distress, can not see past the pain. Tyler rolls up his sleeve, and shows the scar on his arm.
The point then of Jesus, is that regardless of how corrosive reality might be to you at any one time, you can always look over to him, he won't roll up his sleeve, he doesn't have to, the scars are kinda visible all the time. He made it through it, so can you.
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