Tyler C vs State of Matter - Silver Sun (Original Mix)
Haha, quite productive lately. The latest offering is a collaboration between myself and Tyler C. We've been working on this for the past 3 or 4 weeks now, very different from both of our usual stuff, but we're both extremely happy with the result. This is just an overall fun trance track, reminiscent of sort of a mix between gouryella and nu nrg in terms of synthwork and structure, and we hope you have as much fun listening as we had writing this.
Last edited by State of Matter on Jan-17-2005 at 22:04
Jan-17-2005 08:28
Mycron
Aneym.com Staff
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Budapest
ok, guys
quality track here as usual,
i love the breakdown, i can feel your style here som atm
like the melodies, the main melody kinda remind to something, i heard before but not sure
anyway, tbh, dont really like the bassline, needs more drive to it, i think, but it's just personal taste
cool track, overall
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Jan-17-2005 09:35
TOR
Traveller
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Bruges, Belgium
good melodies, but there's a couple of things i don't like.. first of all, too much is happening. sometimes less equals more, which i think would be the case here. it's all just a bit too chaotic. and secondly, the main synth shoud be at least one octave lower.. it's "screaming" way too much, i feel like being in desperate need of air when listening to it.
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Jan-17-2005 14:02
Massive84
Old Relic
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Sequence Realm
Yes my first impression, was the chaos.
Second was the synths, the saws didn't fit in this tune IMO, but thats taste.
Great break thought, good breakbeats, but like i said, it's hard to say what is what due the chaos, i can't feel all the elements well.
Hope that helps
Jan-17-2005 16:28
AniG
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Perth
yeh it does sound kinda chaotic, id have to agree. but some people like it sounding that way :P as i notice everyone saying, its personal preference.
Jan-17-2005 16:39
EtherealSL
experiments underway
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Washington D.C.
hmm... you already know most of what i think
a few new things: bring in that lead ONLY in the breakdown... it really takes away from that really cool gliding synth.
Like said before, melody is BOSS... but it's that secondary synth that helps out during the melody, it's pwm like fucking crazy, kinda pisses me off but then again, you know i have an allergy to pwm stuff
mmm was'nt really feeling this one, dont know why, it seems like a good track. i think theres way to much hi in it for a start, that main synth was nothing special it kinda annoyed me. the break was a kinda strange too the pads seemed a bit out of tune in parts. when that synth comes back in on the break its ear piercingly high.
sorry its probably mainly cause its not my style that i dont like it.
good work otherwise.
Jan-17-2005 19:42
tylerc
wannabe ballaz
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: MN USA
thanks for all the comments guys, we definitely take everything you say to heart. should have an updated clip up any time now.
btw ethereal, i r noob, so yer gonna hafta explain what pwm is, are you talking about the mod wheel automation on the kinda guitar soundin thing? i suppose pwm is pitch wheel modulation......
The honest feedback is definitely appreciated. I've just spent a few hours tweaking the track, and I have a new sample. This is DIFFERENT from the link above, for the purpose of comparison. Please let us know what you think. Thanks again guys.
I brought the lead synth down an octave and eq'd the highs out a bit to make it less piercing. Bassline is playing an octave lower and with a more driving pattern. Orchestral strings play only during the breakdown. Some submelodies removed as well to cut back on the chaotic sound of the original version.
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Tyler, you're correct, by pwm (pitch wave modulation) i mean your automation on certain notes on the "guitar" synth, the melody on that synth is fine, and i was telling SoM earlier via IM that the automation isn't really necessary, kinda throws me off from the lead "saw" synth, which is such a good melody, i would hate to get my attention thrown off by something else
This version is a lot cleaner during the mainsection... still not liking that pitch bendingness on that guitar. definately an improvement in terms of clarity from the first one. The lead sounds much fuller and less hi-pitched (i'm assuming you added another version of the synth on that's lower one octave) I think you should increase the release (or delay?) on that new lead saw, though, seems like the notes end abruptly when playing the main melody.
but then again, you know i have an allergy to pwm stuff
