My cellphone contract is going to come to an end in march. I'm uncertain as to whether I will continue using a cell phone. It's been 2 years and prices are exactly the same. I really can't justify paying ~$50/month for something I barely even use that much. I would use it a lot more if day time rates weren't so insane. The current plans just don't fit my needs.

The Virgin deal is nothing more than a re-sale deal, I wouldn't expect anything interesting (other than hardware) - Bell isn't going to let a re-seller under-cut them by too much.

Is CityFido still available in it's current form, or has that been kyboshed? I need to get some mobile service setup (not for me), was hoping to get onto the cityfido (before it's gone).

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Originally posted by dEsidEL interesting to see how this turns out for 'competition'.. let's hope Virgin Mobile can add back the competitive pricing again when they come around.. it's just too bad they're on a CDMA network instead [/color]

Why would they be any more competitively priced than the existing providers? Virgin is not setting up their own network... they're only buying time / space off the Bell Mobility network. Why would Bell allow someone to use their own network and significantly undercut their own prices in the process?

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Originally posted by baystreetboi Why would they be any more competitively priced than the existing providers? Virgin is not setting up their own network... they're only buying time / space off the Bell Mobility network. Why would Bell allow someone to use their own network and significantly undercut their own prices in the process?

they may be more competitively priced because of their target market, but i don't know whether that's going to be the case for sure which is why i said "let's hope"..

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The Virgin deal is nothing more than a re-sale deal, I wouldn't expect anything interesting (other than hardware) - Bell isn't going to let a re-seller under-cut them by too much. Is CityFido still available in it's current form, or has that been kyboshed? I need to get some mobile service setup (not for me), was hoping to get onto the cityfido (before it's gone).

CityFido is still available in it's existing format until March 1st, at which point new users will have to go on the new plans. I do believe the actual "City" area where you get unlimited calls is being scaled back though. I seem to recall reading it will essentially only be in the 416 area code.

Once on the "existing" CityFido plan, you'll be grandfathered for 12 months at which point you either have to switch to the new plans, or I believe they are keeping the option open for you to maintain the existing plans provided that you continue to sign up for long-term contracts rather than go month-to-month.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker The Virgin deal is nothing more than a re-sale deal, I wouldn't expect anything interesting (other than hardware) - Bell isn't going to let a re-seller under-cut them by too much.

and because of this, i don't have a lot of confidence that they will either.. which is why i was against the Rogers-FIDO takeover.. but ultimately time will tell how consumers will be affected by this..

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Is CityFido still available in it's current form, or has that been kyboshed? I need to get some mobile service setup (not for me), was hoping to get onto the cityfido (before it's gone).

CityFido is no longer available in it's current form.. as of January 12th, 2005 - Rogers decided to reinstate the $6.95 system access fee back into the plan. If you were already on it, then u'd still be exempt from it until your contract is up.

the plan will eventually be changed altogether and the service level reduced as per the article that i posted above..

it might be still worthwhile getting on it , but it was a far better deal when it was being managed solely by Fido (since users can't roam on the Rogers network on CityFido anyway and were paying far less for the service at the time).

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Originally posted by baystreetboi Once on the "existing" CityFido plan, you'll be grandfathered for 12 months at which point you either have to switch to the new plans, or I believe they are keeping the option open for you to maintain the existing plans provided that you continue to sign up for long-term contracts rather than go month-to-month.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL CityFido is no longer available in it's current form.. as of January 12th, 2005 - Rogers decided to reinstate the $6.95 system access fee back into the plan. If you were already on it, then u'd still be exempt from it until your contract is up.

This is good news.

There is still time to sign-up for the CityFido (+ $7 access fee) and then maintain the current service (NOT post March 1 service) for the next 12 months - right?

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Originally posted by dEsidEL CityFido is no longer available in it's current form.. as of January 12th, 2005 - Rogers decided to reinstate the $6.95 system access fee back into the plan. If you were already on it, then u'd still be exempt from it until your contract is up.

This isn't a huge change though... apparently there was a $50 "management fee" that you paid once a year with City Fido... essentially an annual system access fee. Switching to the $6.95 / month just means an extra $30 or so a year. Sure it's more, but it's not like you weren't paying a substantial chunk of that in the first place.

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Originally posted by baystreetboi This isn't a huge change though... apparently there was a $50 "management fee" that you paid once a year with City Fido... essentially an annual system access fee. Switching to the $6.95 / month just means an extra $30 or so a year. Sure it's more, but it's not like you weren't paying a substantial chunk of that in the first place.

that's true, but the $50 was a one time activiation fee.. thereafter no other maintenance fee was necessary .. unlike the $6.95 which is charged monthly

atleast the people who were originally on it still won't have to pay that fee.. atleast upto the end of the current contract

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