Alright i have no equipment and no software...but for the moment im just studying alot of this shit...how would i figure out the bpms i mean is there a program or do i just listen...i sounds pretty impossible (for starters) to figure out the bpms of songs without learning how to do it first dont you think
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Mar-03-2005 13:20
CosmoKid
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Location: New Jersey, USA
take your watch.
look at the seconds hand.
put on a song.
when the seconds hand hits 12, start counting the beats of the song.
wait 15 seconds.
multiply that by 4.
thats the BPM.
Why are you so worried about BPM?
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Mar-03-2005 13:57
ChoonSeeker
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Far From Here, NYC
Just take a guess.
Mar-03-2005 14:06
djsphere
producer in training
Registered: Apr 2003
Location: bucharest
There are plenty of programs that calculate the bpm. One of them is Traktor. I think you can get a demo version for free.
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Dallas Tx USA : TX TA #73
quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
Why are you so worried about BPM?
+1?
i used to think knowing the BPM of my tracks would unlock some hidden talent i had...
peh
turns out knowing the BPM just told me how many kicks per min the track was playing at 0% pitch... fat lot of help it was...
if you want some usefull information check out the thread on Harmonic mixing, bpms are just a bunch of numbers that as soon as you learn you move on to the next thing and forget anyways resulting in perfectly good mixing/learning time blown away
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Mar-03-2005 18:26
IntegraR0064
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Phoenixville (Philly), PA
A lot of mixers will do it for you. Or search on google for "bpm counter", you'll find tons of javascript and/or VB programs that will do it. Or any of the other things anyone else has said.
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Mar-03-2005 19:53
Exodus17
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Dallas Tx USA : TX TA #73
^ true.. you can always buy a mixer that has a built in BPM counter or my an external counter, i think they have one that you can plug you headphones to and it gives you the bpm of the chane you're listening to...
even still, alot of bpm counters are in accurate anyways and in no way do they aid your mixing... unless you do have a good one and you want to fine tune a mix within a tenth of a beat or whatever....
theres a couple threads regarding BPM counters, look it up... to save you some perfectly good time though they arent all they're made out to be
ask anyone here who owns one, most if not all dont use them and have them covered
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Mar-03-2005 21:31
IntegraR0064
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Location: Phoenixville (Philly), PA
quote:
Originally posted by Exodus17
ask anyone here who owns one, most if not all dont use them and have them covered
yeah, i don't actually cover mine (i have a denon DNX-1500). I use it just as a very general guide to where my set is, or where a track is if it's a new one. Sometimes it's hard for me to tell if i'm around 125 or arond 130 BPM...or in trance's case if it's around 135 or around 140, mainly if i'm mixing tracks i don't know very well. But for the most part I don't use them...i never had them until I got this mixer a little under a year ago.
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Mar-03-2005 21:51
Michael May
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Detroit
Dont use bpm counters!
Mar-03-2005 22:04
r5a
snake inverter
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by Mike123
Dont use bpm counters!
+1
Mar-03-2005 22:36
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
I think its important to know your BPM is you're going to be doing harmonic mixing. You don't want to pull a track that is in the same key or a complimentary key and when you get it pitched up the key has changed because of the difference in pitch. It doesn't help you mix though or beatmatch, thats what your ears are for. It helps me quite a lot in set programming.
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