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movingincircles
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: USA
pvd synths?

hi!

Before reading you must understand that I have no knowledge of producing electronic music, nor do I have any keyboard skills.

but anyways, I was wondering how does pvd get those background synths that he uses in 90% of his tracks

great examples if you do not know what I am talking about:
face to face (from out there and back)
Time of our lives

More preferrably, if you have the second sun album, I want to grab the synth from:
pop musik (around 2:20)
love simulator (at the breakdown)


how do they get those sounds (what kind of software/hardware do they use to get these?).

It is a shame that no one at my school has any interest in electronic music...

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Derivative
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an audio sample would be nice because i havent heard many of those songs...

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movingincircles
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wow never heard of time of our lives or love simulator?

here the samples

http://s87744349.onlinehome.us/samples.mp3

i just want the background, not the main synth (except for the 3rd one)

thanks

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RiCo
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The background sounds like a simple square wave patch. The main one is your average saw lead patch. You can make that with pretty much any synth that has square and saw waves. =o)

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movingincircles
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ok i dont think i emphasized it but I am a COMPLETE newbie when it comes to production

I have FL Studio 4 and Reason 2.5 (and adobe audition if that makes a difference)
care to make a step by step tutorial to match this sound with either program?

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RiCo
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OK, since you'll have to learn this regardless, you're going to do a search here on this website on Subtractive Synthesis...you'll come up with some threads that'll have links or the information right in there. You're going to read EVERYTHING about the synthesis and make sure you understand it...it's very simple and easy to grasp. Then you open Reason 2.5, create a Mixer and a Subtractor. Subtractor will have the basic saw waveform loaded already, so all you have to do is start tweaking with what you learned from Subtractive Synthesis and once you have the basic sound you like, create a Unison right under the Subtractor. Create a Delay under the Unison and if you want a Digital Reverb or RV7000 under the Delay to make it sound better and more live. You have there what's needed to make a saw lead...just tweak away according to what you learned. For the background sound you said, that's a square wave...very simple and you can do it with Subtractor also. You pretty much don't have to do anything to make it sound like the one in the song...just add reverb, delay, or anything else you want to make it sound good. EXPERIMENT...that's the key!

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Here's a basic sound with Reason...nothing special. They sound good in records because they have to EQ all the instruments and add effects to make them sound better while blending in themix together. Let me know if this is not the sound you are after...the only background sound I heard in the song was the glassy one while the main one was a saw. These don't sound like in the song because these are just basic waves with nothing done to them. =o)

Click here!

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movingincircles
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thx for pointing in the right direction!
it isn't really the one im looking for

I'm looking for the first two samples ones (the background) in the samples.mp3 in the post above

forget the rest of the samples

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Originally posted by RiCo
Here's a basic sound with Reason...nothing special. They sound good in records because they have to EQ all the instruments and add effects to make them sound better while blending in themix together. Let me know if this is not the sound you are after...the only background sound I heard in the song was the glassy one while the main one was a saw. These don't sound like in the song because these are just basic waves with nothing done to them. =o)

Click here!


Rico, how could I make that exact sound in either vanguard, v-station or maybe pro 53? What does it consist of? Cos that sound is awesome, I could use that sound.


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Well, it's using Subtractor from Reason so it'll probably sound a bit different in other synths plus I used Reason Digital Delay and Digital Reverb. It's just basic stuff...I didn't program a lot...it only took me a few minutes, hehe. Do you have Reason? It'll be easier for me sending it to you than explaining because it was so simple, I might send you the wrong direction. If you don't have Reason, I'll see if I can make it in Pro-53 or V-Station (I hate Vanguard...won't be using it probably, hehe).

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Hey, I just recreated the glassy square on V-Station; now I gotta do the saw lead...do you use Cubase so I can send you the .fxp or how do you want me to save it to send it to you?

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paulc_dj
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If you could save them as v-station presets that would be cool.

Cheers Rico.

PC


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