Hmmm....

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Originally posted by leeor So I'd like to put together a "Trance Awareness Week" for the states :-) This will basically be 1 week where everyday a top artist provides an exclusive set for you to burn and give out during that day. Give it to strangers, family, and friends. The goal is to create a Trance Buzz and bring people to the clan How did M.C. Hammer make it? Yes you guessed it.. demo tapes Let's take a bite out of hip hop Also maybe each day we'll have a different popular sub-genre, such as progressive trance, psytrance, hardtrance, melodictrance.. trancetrance. Who's up for this, and who thinks they have the connections to get the ball rolling? The week should be quite some time ahead so that there will be enough time to gather supporters and get artists on the ball. We can also do a press release. So why do this? Well this will definitly get the word out that there is this wonderful genre out there called Trance. That's first. Second, it will create a demand for the genre, therefore we will see more trance-related events, radio stations, and new acts we may have never heard of before. If you are a trance DJ and find yourself having to play hip hop when you perform, and trance in your bedroom, this will definitly help turn things around. What has been the #1 negative reaction that I've heard? "It's going to kill the genre" If anything, it will definitly Not kill the genre. You will always have the sounds of the underground, for any genre. If that's what makes you feel special, you will find it. But I've listened to trance and followed it for many many years now and it has never broke into the US market. Except for Aqua - Barbie Girl and Eifel 65 - Blue. We can do better! So let me get your take on the idea... this will require an open effort, meaning trance addict, club planet, trance.nu, etc... ~Leeor

yeah it does happen once a year, in miami, its called WMC.

i think your idea is a very bad one. do you really want to see trance and EDM become pop? I like my scene just where it is: underground. lets leave it there.

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Originally posted by Vero yeah it does happen once a year, in miami, its called WMC. i think your idea is a very bad one. do you really want to see trance and EDM become pop? I like my scene just where it is: underground. lets leave it there.

the scene is not really underground... at least not anymore

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Originally posted by nchs09 the scene is not really underground... at least not anymore

in the USA...its underground

yes, it should stay underground//

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: in the USA...its underground yes, it should stay underground//

bro its not underground wtf are u guys talking about

WMC is just a big event hosting all the greats in the field. I am talking about nationalizing the genre. You're telling me that if someone asks you "hey what is that you're listening to?" You'll completely tune them out? ...

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and the point of this is? trance had its commercial success already... back in the late 90s and early 00s kiddy parties played more trance than hiphop. REAL trance like Thrillseekers, Ferry Corsten type stuff, and that stuff was on the radio, and it charted!... Power96's format was trancier than rap...
It wasn't until 2001, that Power96's format got more ghetto to the point of trance's extinction on that station a few years later.

In the late 90s you saw the rise of poser "ravers", and all of a sudden kiddies took up raving. Epic trance brought raving into the mainstream. Took raving and saturated it to the point of a lame school dance. Trance lost appeal because ravers on ecstasy wasn't as rebellious as hard rockers or gangsta rappers. The lyrical content, if any lyrics were contained at all, was too fluffy. Anything with a rebel image sells in pop culture. Once it loses its former rebel image, the music is perceived as lame duck and goes underground. The final betrayal of trance in the mainstream world was when commercial trance artists lost all creativity and decided to go on a rampage and do nothing but 80s covers, making trance look lamer than country/western.

It's a shame to see a fellow TA call Eiffel65 - I'm Blue and Aqua - Barbie Girl trance, when it is clearly europop.

I see you have good intentions, but your information was poorly researched and blatantly ignorant, making your point seem more laughable than effective.

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Last edited by gerrycueto on May-16-2005 at 21:29

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Originally posted by gerrycueto It's a shame to see a fellow TA call Eiffel65 - I'm Blue and Aqua - Barbie Girl trance, when it is clearly europop.

Barbie Girl Europop, defintely. Blue was more like borderline dance, IMO.

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Originally posted by gerrycueto It's a shame to see a fellow TA call Eiffel65 - I'm Blue and Aqua - Barbie Girl trance, when it is clearly europop.

wut a bunch of fucking n00bs.. we all know dj sammy - heaven is where the trance is at!!!!

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actually... dance is a big genre that encompasses trance, house, techno, drum n bass, breaks, hardcore, ect.. so basically all EDM is dance music, hence the acronym standing for Electronic Dance Music.

Both of those tracks are europop tunes, but both aren't the same type of europop. "Blue" is nu italo disco (which is built around a simplistic beat with a 4/4 bassline containing auto-tuned or vocoded vocals mostly... and containing catchy lyricless vocal parts like (aba-dee aba-dai.. dah dee dam dah dee dam) , while "Barbie Girl" is happy house, which typically a eurohouse beat, but with nonsensical happy, extremely sacharrine lyrics.

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Originally posted by nchs09 wut a bunch of fucking n00bs.. we all know dj sammy - heaven is where the trance is at!!!!

word! It's extremely noob for anyone to call blue or barbie girl trance.

and you do have a point... DJ Sammy - Heaven is trance. It follows all the rules a trance song should follow... contains trance synths... breaks and builds just like any trance song... which Blue and Barbie Girl don't do...

yeah, tracks like "Heaven" were the final betrayal of trance... lame trance mix of Bryan Adams

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