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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia
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So, I come home from work tonight and my parents are watching 20/20. They had an article on preteens and such wearing expensive designer clothes.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Business/story?id=1322796

Some of the highlights...

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Nov. 18, 2005 - We all want what's best for our kids. But I thought that meant the best care and the best education, not the trendiest clothes.

The kiddie clothing business is booming. The fashion industry has discovered that some parents will pay a lot for kids' clothes, so now Versace, Dolce & Gabbana, Burberry, and other high-priced designers are funding fashion shows - complete with 5-year-olds gliding down runways in miniskirts and knee-high fur boots - hoping that children's clothing stores will carry their high-end fashions for kids.

I find it hard to believe that parents will pay $125 for kiddie boots, and $100 for tiny miniskirts. But I'm a guy - what do I know?

I stopped by Z'Baby, a popular store in New York City to see what designer kids clothes go for. Store owner Sharone Glaser stocks jeans that sell for $300. They even look frayed, but Glaser says that makes them "more cool."

I thought parents would buy less expensive clothes for their kids, since they outgrow their clothes so quickly. But Glaser's customers don't seem to mind the high prices.

One mom, who bought her daughter a $340 coat, said she wants her daughter's clothing to make an impression. "She's my little princess doll - We're dressing her so that when we take her out, adults look at her and say, 'Wow.'"

We brought a couple $30 sweaters and dresses to Z'Baby, and found that half of the customers couldn't tell the difference between them and the Z'Baby clothing, which cost almost three times as much.

Shoppers might not be able to see any difference in the store, but the store owner claims her expensive clothes are more durable.

"They last longer. The quality is better. It doesn't fade," she said.

Glaser said you see the difference in quality after a few washes.

Se we washed her expensive stuff and the cheaper clothing from the Gap, Gymboree, and Old Navy five times, and it all looked the same. When we washed it 10 times, some of the clothing faded, but price was no guide - the Gymboree stuff did well, and the stitching on even the cheapest clothing held up through 20 washes.

In fairness, Glaser's expensive clothes held their color very well. It's a reason she buys $400 raincoats for her kids.

Isn't there something gross about spending so much money on clothes kids will outgrow so quickly, I asked her.

"No, because you know what? I think that it's gross when the parent doesn't value the child," she said.

Buying a $400 raincoat is how we value kids? Please tell me it's not true.

I went to a clothing show where kids were modeling Madonna's new line of children's clothing. The pop star's shirts were double and triple the price of similar clothing at the Gap or Target.

I asked a group of kids if they thought the clothes were better. "They're much more comfortable and they look more stylish," one girl told me.

But couldn't you go to J.C. Penney and get stuff that's comfortable and bright, I asked.

"No, not really," several girls answered.

The kids couldn't say enough good things about the expensive clothes. One said, "It's strange how something as little as clothing can make you feel so confident in yourself."

Why would clothing do that?

"Because if you look pretty you feel good about yourself," she said.

Do you have to spend hundreds of dollars to feel good about yourself?

Why do you love the clothes? I asked.

"Because they're popular," one girl explained.

And what does popular mean?

"It means when - another person's wearing ugly clothes, they have to wear pretty clothes and they hang out with all the people," she said.


So today's message from the designer clothing business? Buy $120 outfits and you'll get to hang out with the other people.


The first bolded comment came from a mother talking about her daughter who was a toddler. The child couldn't even speak, and could probably barely walk.

The last one came from the comment of a girl who couldn't be more than 11 years old. Is society that fucking pathetic? Are parents seriously teaching their kids that they have to look "cool/in/hip" on the outside in order to fit in or be cool? The parents yammered on and on about how their kids deserve the best, how even the Gap was too inferior for their kids, how they absolutely must spend $300 on a shirt that their kids will grow out of in less than a year.

Society fucking disgusts me.

/rant

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sensorium
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$340 for a coat? You could buy some cool videogames with that money. Stupid society man!

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

Its true tho right?

Get the cool threads, hang with the other kids with the cool threads.

Its the same with adults and incomes etc etc etc..


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Floorfiller
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Illegal Pete's

unfortunately i think this shit happens. i mean, i think this is part of the reason you see like 13 year olds slutted out and shit.


i think kids grow up too fast these days. man i wish i could've stayed young and stupid longer...i don't know why they are all in a hurry to grow up.

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jonSun
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Registered: Dec 2003
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My ex gf was kinda like this. She bought her kid all the designer shit & the cloths & shoes would get ruined. FFS he was only 7. Then she would even go out & buy her stupid cat a Coach coller for like $100. Like the fucking cat gives a shit.


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Subey
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Registered: Nov 2003
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A capitalist based economy implies some sort of uneven distribution of discretionary income. Some people will have more money.

More importantly if people are allowed to have discretionary income then they are allowed to spend that income in whichever way pleases them. If they are not allowed to do so, then its no longer their money.

Even more importantly, judgement is an attempt to control someone else's behaviour. Or in lieu of that its an attempt to reduce their enjoyment of an activity by making them self conscious in doing it.


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Ygrene
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Totergefuttert

Welp, it's official. I hate people.....AGAIN.


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eROs.au
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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
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LOL im only posting because im drunks and the drunk thread is gone and your avatar is fucken LOL!

omg ygrene u get my vote for funniest mang on TA...


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LOL im only posting because im drunks and the drunk thread is gone and your avatar is fucken LOL!

omg ygrene u get my vote for funniest mang on TA...


There never was a drunk thread!! LOL

and im getting drunk.. 4, 5 more beers... w00t for 24 packs!


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LuNaSeA
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, Wisconsin

this is totally true, especially in the ny/nj area. shit, my relatives are even guilty of literally just throwing away cash on their babies for a one-time-use outfit. it's so dumb!

and if a parent starts this mentality when they're just babies, then it's 100x more likely that the kid will grow up thinking the exact same thing, especially during the tough, peer-pressure ridden years in high school, etc...

luckily, i went to a catholic school so we just wore uniforms all day- and even when we had the occasional non-uniform day, clothing was NEVER about designer shit, even for the so-called 'popular kids'. but nowadays, my parents' friends kids are indeed all about designer clothing, and they're 17 and 13 years old. totally sad (the parents didn't raise them to think this way, it was more peer-pressure related).

but how do you get a kid to stop thinking this way, valuing valueless material things?? the problem is that most of these teens are probably getting shit handed to them on a silver platter.. and shit, what do kids know the value of an expensive coat, etc? they dont!! they'll just treat it as anything cuz they're KIDS. i personally dont like designer shit cuz i dont see what's so great about something so overpriced? better quality? not true in a LOT of cases. and if i happen to buy something for myself that is believe is unique and happens to be kind of expensive, then i sure as hell know how to value it cuz it came outta MY pocket...


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Aquarian
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Laval, Quebec

Has anyone noticed how spoiled and irresponsible the new generation is? It's really sad to watch sometimes.

Well they can wear their stupid 350$ clothes if they want, and I'll be wearing my 5$ Tee shirts from old navy with my 15$ vest on top - jokes on them.

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quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
Has anyone noticed how spoiled and irresponsible the new generation is? It's really sad to watch sometimes.

Well they can wear their stupid 350$ clothes if they want, and I'll be wearing my 5$ Tee shirts from old navy with my 15$ vest on top - jokes on them.


No, the jokes on you!


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