equaly, one couldnt live with out the other.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

i think in most cases i usually care more about the producers of the work. i don't really like buying mix comps and would rather get the vinyls that i like from them.

however, i think dj's like zabiela who do more than just beat matching get a ton o respect from me.

99,99% the producer... the dj is only getting credit for puting them together. ofcourse newbs and many scene junkies/groopies cant see that... its a shitty world

it seems obvious at first. you would think it's the producer. But when you think of it, it's pretty equal. the producer makes the choon, and the dj acts as a sort of promoter for it. Imagine all the tracks we would be missing out on if we hadn't heard it at the club.
I know i wouldn't know half as much as I do about edm if it weren't for listening to sets and clubbing.

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Originally posted by nchs09 equaly, one couldnt live with out the other.

Eh, still, the guys just putting the tracks together are the ones with all the fame and recognition. It's how you get these kids who are looking for tracks like Tiesto - As The Rush Comes simply because they heard it on Nyana.

I still think producers don't get enough recognition even if they couldn't survive without the dj. It's a musical symbiosis, just with one side getting less than the other.

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Originally posted by Demoted Eh, still, the guys just putting the tracks together are the ones with all the fame and recognition. It's how you get these kids who are looking for tracks like Tiesto - As The Rush Comes simply because they heard it on Nyana.

Now now, we all know we can only blame idiots who can't name their mp3's correctly for that.

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Originally posted by Demoted I still think producers don't get enough recognition even if they couldn't survive without the dj. It's a musical symbiosis, just with one side getting less than the other.

agreed.

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sure the dj is essential for clubbing and sets. However, for personal listening (i.e. producer's album)the producer takes all the credit. The dj promotes what the producer makes. But if there was not dj to promote the single, then the single would be more "underground" but would still exist and it wouldnt have such a commercial success. This would create a problem for the producer looking to sell records, but for those who are just in for the music and don't give a shit about the $, this shouldnt be a problem.

I think a similar problem might arise in lets say pop music. Take Britney Spears, she creates a track (a producer). Now to sell her records she makes a video which she sends to mtv, makes ads, makes interviews etc. This promotion would be what the dj does, promote the music. If she couldnt afford to make all this publicity and/or didn't care for $ she could make by selling her records then she would be per say "underground". lol this would create an oxymoron since pop music, as the name implies, is for the masses and by being underground only a few people would know her music thus becoming underground. Of course this is just an example and I doubt it would happen.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Now now, we all know we can only blame idiots who can't name their mp3's correctly for that.

not necessarily.. remember someone on the board the other day saying tiesto "must've had something to do with [the track] because it was featured on nyana".. i think they actually wrote 'As The Rush Comes (tiesto remix)'. think that's the case demoted was on about anyway


and yes.. the dj generally gets far too much credit but the whole system wouldn't function any other way.. and the producers should be grateful for it

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Originally posted by isoterra not necessarily.. remember someone on the board the other day saying tiesto "must've had something to do with [the track] because it was featured on nyana".. i think they actually wrote 'As The Rush Comes (tiesto remix)'. think that's the case demoted was on about anyway

yep, that's the situation I'm referring to. Along with the fact that newbs at a club think that the dj is the one who made all the music being played. Actually, one time I had someone ask me "how does this guy make all this music live?" He really thought all the tracks were being constructed sight on scene. I may be wandering a little further into pure igonorance though.

It's undeniable in any case that producers go relatively unnoticed while many djs live the high-life off other's creative works. As insensitive as that sounds.

I think the producer gets 75% and DJ 25% credit.

Sure DJ promotes the music...but without the producer he has no music.

Also, the producer spends more time perfecting the track. I know mixing takes skill and time too, but obviously it is harder to make the music than to mix it.

my 2 cents.