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mysticalninja
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Cutting songs out of other mixes?

What do you think about cutting songs out of other peoples mixes to use in your own mixes?

I don't know much about djing, but my friend is trying this and I tried to tell him it won't work because you wont have the breakdown in the song cause the dj will of already started mixing the next song when it comes.. but for rare songs you can't find anywhere else is this ok?


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Aquarian
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Laval, Quebec

I you have to resort to that, you're probably a pretty poor excuse for a DJ yourself.

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mnemonic.
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Registered: Jan 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
I you have to resort to that, you're probably a pretty poor excuse for a DJ yourself.


+1

cutting songs from live sets to use in your own = bad
cutting songs from live sets to use as ring tones = Ok i guess

but yeah, you are right, another reason for not doing that is because you dont have a clean start or end to a track, even if you did, you could probably only mix in a bit of the track for a very short time, before the original transition just decides to make itself evident.


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miamitranceman
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On the other hand if the track is, say, really rare like one of Oakie's whitelabels from way back when, I don't see a problem with chopping a section out to use in a mix, just as long as you mix out before the next track starts mixing in.


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Aquarian
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No, it's still stupid.

Being a DJ isn't about mixing tracks together. Anyone can learn to do that. Good DJs are judged by their abilities to search for music, have access to rare tracks, or spend hours browsing through catalogs full of crap only to find one good tune.

If you're cutting out someone else's find, you're not only undermining all the dedication they might've put in looking for it, but you're showing that you don't have what it takes to be a good DJ, and that you have to copy off others.

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spdandpwr
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Living in Connecticut, Partying in New York

thats also considered stealing music...so its illegal

however if you cut it out so you can listen to it in the car or wherever...thats ok

but yeah, i spend hours a day looking online for records and new tracks and it sucks when another guy just steals or copies what I looked so long for but, on the other hand, its part of life. People always choose the easy way out. Also i don't understand why would you ask this question (i say it in a non-rude fashion with no intention to offend)? there are no rules to mixing except you can't mix tracks you stole because its illegal...its how your mix sounds that matters...


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ZeJayMan
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Isn't finally finding that one Uber track the whole fun in DJ'ing?


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mnemonic.
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quote:
Originally posted by Aquarian
No, it's still stupid.

Being a DJ isn't about mixing tracks together. Anyone can learn to do that. Good DJs are judged by their abilities to search for music, have access to rare tracks, or spend hours browsing through catalogs full of crap only to find one good tune.

If you're cutting out someone else's find, you're not only undermining all the dedication they might've put in looking for it, but you're showing that you don't have what it takes to be a good DJ, and that you have to copy off others.


+ it shows laziness IMO


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Then, I blew out the candle.

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mysticalninja
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Keep in mind he's not trying to release his mix.. He just wants to use the song for parties etc.


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miamitranceman
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quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
Keep in mind he's not trying to release his mix.. He just wants to use the song for parties etc.



Exactly, if you're just playing a house party or bedroom djing, I don't see the big deal. If you're playing a club gig, that's another story of course.


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i think cutting up previously recorded mixes takes the fun out of the search for tracks...im sure there are a lot of people on here who search months, even years for certain releases...and once you find it...its almost orgasmic...i suppose...o_O

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