Hitler used hatred against the jews to unite the people and gain power, which gave him the possibility and public support to wage war against the rest of the world.
Ahmenidjad uses same thing, but now with Israel. If someone thinks that he will be satisfied with the total destruction of Israel is refusing to learn from the near history 70 years ago.

The free world refuses to learn from its biggest mistke in history.

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Sort of like having the annual Fireman's ball at the local arsonist's house...

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You do realize there's also a Holocaust revisionist movement inside the jewish community

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Originally posted by Flotser Hitler used hatred against the jews to unite the people and gain power, which gave him the possibility and public support to wage war against the rest of the world. Ahmenidjad uses same thing, but now with Israel.

And that is different how exactly to what the American/Israeli governments are doing against Muslims?

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Originally posted by George Smiley And that is different how exactly to what the American/Israeli governments are doing against Muslims?

I don't live in the US so i will not answer that.

But i do know Israel doesn't teach for hatred of muslims or arabs. No dictator is standing in the head of israel and gaining its power from spreading hatred towards the arabs. You don't see crowds of israelis scream 'Death to X' (X = any arab country) like in this clip from Iran:

http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165#

In school we allways talked about piece and sang songs about piece. Nobody teaches in Israel that arabs are pigs and evil or or drink blood of children like shown on arab national TV about jews and Israelis. Children cartoons In Iran teach kids they should become suicide bombers. So do children shows in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and more

just pick a clip from here:
http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165#

You will funk must see clips like:
-Egyptian Cleric Sheik Muhammad Sharaf Al-Din on a Children Show: The Jews Are the People of Treachery, Betrayal, and Vileness.

-Egyptian Cleric Sheik Muhammad Nassar Tells a Group of Children about Child Martyrdom in the Early Days of Islam

-Jews Turn into Apes and Pigs in an Clay-mation Film for Children on Hizbullah TV

-Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings

-3½-Year-old Egyptian Basmallah: Jews Are Apes and Pigs (Archival Material)

etc..

enjoy

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Originally posted by George Smiley And that is different how exactly to what the American/Israeli governments are doing against Muslims?

What is your point?


One wrongful behavior does not invalidate another.

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Originally posted by jdat What is your point? One wrongful behavior does not invalidate another.

No it does not, and that was my point, that while people (rightly) criticise Iran's and various militia group's demonisation of the Jews, they themselves are subjected to the same level of propaganda against the Muslims in order for their own ruling elites to pursue and gain support for various policies (such as America's "war on terror" which is actually the PNAC plan for US global domination) It's just that Western propaganda is not so obvious...

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Originally posted by Flotser I don't live in the US so i will not answer that. But i do know Israel doesn't teach for hatred of muslims or arabs. No dictator is standing in the head of israel and gaining its power from spreading hatred towards the arabs. You don't see crowds of israelis scream 'Death to X' (X = any arab country) like in this clip from Iran: http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165# In school we allways talked about piece and sang songs about piece. Nobody teaches in Israel that arabs are pigs and evil or or drink blood of children like shown on arab national TV about jews and Israelis. Children cartoons In Iran teach kids they should become suicide bombers. So do children shows in Egypt, Saudi Arabia and more just pick a clip from here: http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S5&P1=165# You will funk must see clips like: -Egyptian Cleric Sheik Muhammad Sharaf Al-Din on a Children Show: The Jews Are the People of Treachery, Betrayal, and Vileness. -Egyptian Cleric Sheik Muhammad Nassar Tells a Group of Children about Child Martyrdom in the Early Days of Islam -Jews Turn into Apes and Pigs in an Clay-mation Film for Children on Hizbullah TV -Iranian Animated Film for Children Promotes Suicide Bombings -3½-Year-old Egyptian Basmallah: Jews Are Apes and Pigs (Archival Material) etc.. enjoy

No, Western anti-Islamic propaganda is far more sophisticated and subtle

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Originally posted by George Smiley No it does not, and that was my point, that while people (rightly) criticise Iran's and various militia group's demonisation of the Jews, they themselves are subjected to the same level of propaganda against the Muslims in order for their own ruling elites to pursue and gain support for various policies (such as America's "war on terror" which is actually the PNAC plan for US global domination) It's just that Western propaganda is not so obvious...

So what are your recommendations?

Should the West or anyone else who has had issues with Iran/Islam/Arabs/etc now or in the past be quiet and not be allowed to voice an opinion on this type of matter or anything pertaining to local politics?


Ps: I'm not pointing fingers I'm just trying to understand

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Originally posted by jdat So what are your recommendations? Should the West or anyone else who has had issues with Iran/Islam/Arabs/etc now or in the past be quiet and not be allowed to voice an opinion on this type of matter or anything pertaining to local politics? Ps: I'm not pointing fingers I'm just trying to understand

Erm not sure what you're getting at...?

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Originally posted by George Smiley No it does not, and that was my point, that while people (rightly) criticise Iran's and various militia group's demonisation of the Jews, they themselves are subjected to the same level of propaganda against the Muslims

Same level of propoganda ?? how can you compare it??
Show me children TV shows in USA or Israel that dehumenize muslims, or show me a children show that encoureges the kids in Israel or USA to sacrifice themselves and killing muslims. Show me a demonstration that happened in USA or Israel that resembeles the one i gave link for in previous post.

The propoganda used in Iran is the closest to Nazi propoganda - the one propoganda proven to be very affective unfortunetly.

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Originally posted by George Smiley in order for their own ruling elites to pursue and gain support for various policies

What ruling elites are you talking about in Israel? No prime ministers in Israel were ever spreading hatred towards the muslims. I'm not even talking about using the education system and controlling the mass media like in Iran.

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Originally posted by George Smiley (such as America's "war on terror" which is actually the PNAC plan for US global domination) It's just that Western propaganda is not so obvious...

well i think 9/11 is a good resson to open in a 'war on terror', or are you among the one that think it was made by US goverment...?

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