I did it alot in the beginning to get a hold on how things work, but with time you will know how to create your own. But i dont think its cheating, just another way to self learn the basics like in all other matters.

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I've never even used any midi files save the ones I create myself from scratch. Maybe I should start using this method.

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ive stolen the bass pattern from midis before, like arpeggio notes and stuff because i dunno how to write a nice arpeggio but the chord pattern and such is different?

i dunno, it could be classed as cheating, but whos to judge?

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I don't really do this all that often, although listening to music has often pulled out musical ideas in me that are not so far removed from the song they came from.

Recently, though, I was experimenting with imitating the supersaw sound using a midi I made based on Carte Blanche, and when I pulled the filter cutoff down to a certain point, that opened up a new chord idea for me that is completely different from the melody that I had been using.

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I didn't even realize you could do this? At the end of the day, I figured everybody just bounced their stuff to audio and mixed down that way. I didn't think people would mix with their MIDI data (even if it's from hardware synths).

I don't know. I don't know if it's cheating. That's a really blurry line to draw. I can see (now that I'm aware of it) perhaps looking up really sporatic lines that I couldn't pick out on my own, and just seeing their structure and trying to apply, theoretically, the concepts I learn into something of my own. However I get MUCH more out of it when I repeatedly listen, ear-training style, and dictate or try to receit on the piano/synth. You'd be surprised because with this method a lot of times whilst trying to dicipher the riff, you'll end up coming up with your own and most of the time that is what I go with. I just did it recently for a track. The beauty of this is that then it's engrained into your creative repertoir, as opposed to your logical repertior of going to a MIDI repository.

Both are good ideas, but again I am going to lean more towards the DIY argument, for myself personally that is. Doesn't work that way for everyone.

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Originally posted by Arudius +2 I didn't even realize you could do this? At the end of the day, I figured everybody just bounced their stuff to audio and mixed down that way. I didn't think people would mix with their MIDI data (even if it's from hardware synths).

That's not what he's saying. He's just talking about taking some popular midi, importing it into the sequencer, changing a couple of notes and calling it your own tune.

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Although I have no musical training (do everything by ear) Ive never used someone elses midi, but it def is a good way to learn the basics

but I wouldnt consider it cheating at all.

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I am just beginner with music making, so I do find midis very helpfull...
With them it is easier to learn about songs` structure and stuff like that.

I don't have the ear/talent to make a midi out of song that I hear.
So when I hear a killer song (maybe nice synth line or catchy bass line) I try to find the midi of the song. That way I can see how the melody/bass is made, what is the structure. And learn.

I don't know if this is cheating?
I think it is more like learning...?

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Originally posted by knight54 So tell me how many of you have have taken the midi info of a track you like, mucked about about with it to come up with your own melody? I've read it happens quite a lot - but do you consider it cheating? Has anyone got any experiences of when this did this - moving from the well known track to there own?

it`s not very creative
so i didn`t