http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...02-salvia_x.htm

apparnetly this kid killed himself because he realized that there is no meaning to the universe. why are they blaming the drug? they need to blame christianity for giving people false hope.

goooo buddhism!

they need a super action hero named Buddha Man, who fights crime (judeo-christian values)

who will save america?????
WHERE ARE YOU BUDDHA MAN??

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sorry, but where does it say he was a christian?

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Originally posted by mezzir sorry, but where does it say he was a christian?

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Perhaps he had no religious influence at all. How do you know?

Anyway, I know from experience that Salvia is crazy shit. If he was already depressed, and then started messing with drugs, I can understand why he would resort to suicide.

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+1 Perhaps he had no religious influence at all. How do you know? Anyway, I know from experience that Salvia is crazy shit. If he was already depressed, and then started messing with drugs, I can understand why he would resort to suicide.

Yes and no, I'd say certain drugs could definately help with depression if taken carefully, but as far as hullucinogenics go, I'd imagine you're right. In the end, life is what you make of it, you have to find your own reason to keep living and enjoy life, no matter how great or small your understanding of the universe it's up to people to make what they will out of life.

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"Kids fall into a false sense of security because it's legal," says state Sen. Karen Peterson, a Delaware Democrat. "We control LSD, and we should control this."

What a stupid attitude. The government don't control drugs, and they never will, all they're going to do is cause more deaths and destroy lives as people are forced to hide their use, use impure and expensive sources and sent to jail for something that's been a part of human culture for thousands of years.

He needs to posthumously refer to the sig.

Yes, I'm very involved in the salvia scene. Everyone that has ever reported on the use of salvia has reported aftereffects of wellbeing and mild euphoria. After a little research, it turns out that he was under a certain medication for acne. The side effects for this medication include depression, and thoughts of suicide. If .00001% of people who take salvia commit suicide, then it's obviously not the salvia.

Salvia is being heavily researched as an ANTI-DEPRESSANT. This kid is being used as a scapegoat to illegalize salvia.

Yay. Another fool provides ammo for more tyrannical and moralistic interference of government in daily life.

I'll add that he had killed himself 1-2 weeks after smoking salvia. He was not under any influence at the time.

Sure. But when has truth been an obstacle to scare campaigns funded with tax dollars?

me and my friend did some yesterday. I don't do the ganja and she knows this. I told her about this "legal" saliva that she needs to try and she like "yeah whatever" thinking it was going to be weak. After we did some she said something i never heard before..."FUCK WEED! THAT SHIT IS THE BOMB!"

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In an essay she found on Brett's computer after his death, he wrote that the meaning of the universe "is nothing." "When I read that I thought, 'That's not him talking, that's salvia," Chidester says.

There's no reason why this should be debated: it seems they want this excuse as much as Brett wanted to cease his existence, no matter how illogical their decisions might have been. I can't blame either of them for having done so, although I'm not so sure about the exploitation of this fact, which will probably be the worst consequence.

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Realizing the meaninglessness of the Universe isn't a reason to kill yourself. I mean, it's not like killing yourself is neccesarily going to get you out of the Universe...........

If he really understood the "meaningless" he would have seen it as a basis for letting go and having fun.

Depression leads people to 86 themselves, not spiritual awakening.

edit: Depression (is what) leads people to 86 themselves, not spiritual awakening.

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Last edited by Ed G on Feb-03-2007 at 17:23