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lücid
electric girl



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: NY
question for the car buffs

should i be using 87 or 91 octane gas in my car? it's a 2003 VW Jetta 1.8 turbo.

the gas cap says 87/91, and the opinions seemed to be pretty mixed on the VWvortex forums. some say use ONLY 91, others say it doesn't make a difference what you use. is it better for the engine/turbo to use 91? plz essplain... i didn't wanna ask on VWvortex 'cause i feel out of my element, lol.


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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

i don't know about turbos, but for almost all modern cars 87 is fine if not better. if you car doesn't knock then you don't need it.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/octane.shtm

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quote:
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i don't know about turbos, but for almost all modern cars 87 is fine if not better. if you car doesn't knock then you don't need it.

+1

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lücid
electric girl



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: NY

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
i don't know about turbos, but for almost all modern cars 87 is fine if not better. if you car doesn't knock then you don't need it.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/octane.shtm

informative article. thanks for that!


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jonSun
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Registered: Dec 2003
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My friend has that same car & has always used 87 since new. She has had no problems at all with the engine. Plus i cant even remember the last time I put anything higher that 87 octane in a car.


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nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
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with a turbo. 91


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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: twentyonetwo

chances are it's a stock turbo right?

87 is more then enough, you move up in octane when you burn leaner due to high AF ratios.

stock turbo doesn't come with a FMIC kit, it's probably sucking out of a stock air box.


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lücid
electric girl



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: NY

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
chances are it's a stock turbo right?

87 is more then enough, you move up in octane when you burn leaner due to high AF ratios.

stock turbo doesn't come with a FMIC kit, it's probably sucking out of a stock air box.

yeah, stock turbo.


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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: twentyonetwo

yea 87 is fine, just make sure your air filter is clean thats all

plugs, wires, engine/tranny oil, brakes, tires, and air/gas filters should be your maintence

engine depending on oil 3k - syn 5k
tranny 30K
plugs n wires 30K
gas filter 30k
rotate tires every 12k-15k
brakes as needed
air filter as needed

not a bad idea to flush your radiator before each winter

I usually go through a winterization in the fall. Lay a heavy coat of wax on the paint, change wipers, snow tires, rubber mats, emergency snow stuff in the trunk.


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david.michael
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Dayton, OH, USA

If your car knocks, your knock sensor will pick it up and retard the timing, which will actually decrease your MPG and performance.

Aside from that, you're not gaining anything with the higher octane.

If the manual says 87 is fine, I'd go with that.

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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
yea 87 is fine, just make sure your air filter is clean thats all

plugs, wires, engine/tranny oil, brakes, tires, and air/gas filters should be your maintence

engine depending on oil 3k - syn 5k
tranny 30K
plugs n wires 30K
gas filter 30k
rotate tires every 12k-15k
brakes as needed
air filter as needed

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

normally id say 91, but since i have no clue on your driving style i cant say either is better. do you stomp on the gas? if so use 91. if you just put put around then 87 is fine since you wont be doing any heavy acceleration.

kid nyce: the octane rating has nothing to do with a/f ratios. its all for detonation aka knock.

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