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itikia
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto
US Rave Crackdown

Got this from TNC.com:

Attempted Government Rave Crackdown Continues

In yet another attempt to crackdown on raves, the House of Representatives is now considering a resolution called the, "Clean, Learn, Educate, Abolish, Neutralize, and Undermine Production (CLEAN-UP) of Methamphetamines Act of 2002."

Sponsored by Rep. Doug Ose of California, who has been an active opponent of raves and methamphetamines as part of the House's Task Force for a Drug Free America, the resolution states: "Whoever knowingly promotes any rave, dance, music, or other entertainment event, that takes place under circumstances where the promoter knows or reasonably ought to know that a controlled substance will be used or distributed in violation of Federal law or the law of the place were the event is held, shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than nine years, or both."

In short, if a promoter knows, or "reasonably ought to know" that drugs may be used or sold at an event, he or she could face up to nine years in prison.

The Electronic Music Defense and Education Fund opposes this resolution, saying that, if loosely interpreted, it could be applied to, "any well-attended entertainment event whether it be a rave, a concert, a major league sports game, or even a high school dance." Though the title of the act implies that it deals with methamphetamines only, the resolution never mentions any specific drug, meaning the possibility would exist for this act to affect countless events other than raves.

The EMDEF also fears the resolution could cause promoters to stop allowing drug prevention organizations and harm reduction groups, such as DanceSafe, a non-profit organization that sets up at raves to test ecstasy drugs for contamination and distribute information on such topics as heat stroke, to set up at their events in fear of admitting to prior-knowledge of drug use.

As of now, this legislation is pending. However, it has been introduced to a number of committees and subcommittees in the House and already has 42 co-sponsors.

The rave crackdown is continuing in California as well. A resolution has been introduced in California Assembly that states: "Any local permit granting authority shall notify the local law enforcement agency when it is considering whether or not to grant a permit for a rave party." The resolution would also require the promoter to present evidence that he or she is "sufficiently knowledgeable about illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia."

The resolution defines a "rave party" as any dance event that may be attended by 1,000 people or more.

The EMDEF also opposes this resolution, saying the wording is just too vague. How, they ask, does this resolution define "evidence," "sufficient knowledge," or even, "drug paraphernalia?" The EMDEF says, "The subjective wording of this bill and the fact that there is no specified formal procedure for the issuance of permits creates a potential for discrimination," against promoters of electronic music and dance events.

This legislation is pending as well; However as the trend towards laws that effectively shut down raves continues in our government, it will not be surprising to see both resolutions pass. What does this mean for the future of raves and electronic music in America? Says the EMDEF: "This is effecting the ability of our industry's top talent to sign deals with major record labels, to tour through large venues, and generally, to remain competitive in the music business."


PRETTY NUTS, don't you guys think?

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Endlesswave
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Thornhill (Ontario)
Smile Yep.

I say they just do what we did up here and have a protest (ala iDance) hopefully they'll have similar luck and won't ban raves alltogether. And it's sad that their gov won't even bother to try and understand the culture before making a decision (like our Gov here did at Nathan Phillips Sq two years ago, how cool was that party?) And it's become sort of an annual tradition since...

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Evmac
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Mississauga

thats crazy down there.. i saw it the other day and how promotors can be put in jail now for up to 8 years!


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TranceXtasy
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

What the hell is this world comming to?! I remember reading about dystopian societies such as Brave New World, and used to think that this could never happen in our society. The more I view society through the lens of a spectator, the more I realize just how much social control and conformity we yield too. We are often so engrained in our daily lives in this ever constricting society, that we fail to realize what exactly we are a part of.


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Endlesswave
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Thornhill (Ontario)

quote:
Originally posted by TranceXtasy
What the hell is this world comming to?! I remember reading about dystopian societies such as Brave New World, and used to think that this could never happen in our society. The more I view society through the lens of a spectator, the more I realize just how much social control and conformity we yield too. We are often so engrained in our daily lives in this ever constricting society, that we fail to realize what exactly we are a part of.


If you liked Brave New World, you should read "We" by Yevgyeny Zamyatin. It's the precursor to 1984. Not bad at all.

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jasmyn
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: anywhere else but here.

I am glad that I don't live in the US, cuz what they are trying to do is a load of crap! Don't they realize that by banning raves the entire scene will probably just go back underground again. People who love to party will always find a way to do whatever they want despite crappy legislation.

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AndoraStar
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

The problem with this situation is that RAVES are assosicated with drugs and drugs are illegal.

They have forever attempted to close down the scene, and I don't see anything wrong with raves being underground. OUR scene will never be as commercial as HIP HOP or POP!

This will always be an on going issue, however money talks BULLSHIT walks.. if you've got the coin and the connections there will always be a way to throw a party.

PEek PeEk out to all of ya TA's! Keep loving the music, the demand is out there...


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speedRacer
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: HAMILTON
Unhappy they don't understand

I aggree with andora star that money talks. Look @ the UK. There are commities of parents who have kids who have died from overdoses. They protest in front of clubs and city halls. But everyone laughes at them on the telly cause they look and act like wankers. Parties still happen. They have hugh debates @ house of commons....but MOney always wins. as melvin says on the simpsons "HAH HA!" To bad fruity parents. Welcome to the real world.

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jasmyn
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: anywhere else but here.
Re: they don't understand

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I aggree with andora star that money talks. Look @ the UK. There are commities of parents who have kids who have died from overdoses. They protest in front of clubs and city halls. But everyone laughes at them on the telly cause they look and act like wankers. Parties still happen. They have hugh debates @ house of commons....but MOney always wins. as melvin says on the simpsons "HAH HA!" To bad fruity parents. Welcome to the real world.

speedRacer



lol ... apparently you don't know your Simpsons very well!

There is no character named melvin on the Simpsons. It's Nelson who's trademark quirk is "HA HA!!"

Old Post Apr-11-2002 21:52  Cambodia
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AAzn_ScratcH
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto

benefits us in a way.
if they get all this bs down there, more of the chance to move up here. trance and rave scene might even grow more in toronto
that'd be great. no more white people trying to be black.

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PunkA$$
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Edmonton, AB
Re: US Rave Crackdown

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Originally posted by itikia Sponsored by Rep. Doug Ose of California, who has been an active opponent of RAVES and METHAMPHETAMINES


grrr....why r those two words even in the same sentence. damn, that really gets me choked up when people mention raves and drugs in the same breath

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failsafe
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: YYZ (finally)

I guess phish and other "hippy" type bands should not be allowed to play too? After all, who isn't smoking up when they go to those shows? Hell, even the AC/DC skidz light up when their skid masters come on stage. It sounds like such a stupid law.

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