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trance-ecj
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First, thanks for all the help with my last thread.

I tried a search for sidechaining, but didnt have much luck, so sorry if this has been covered.

I'm looking for a technique and/or some plugin suggestions to create sidechain compression in ableton live.

i know ableton lack that sidechain ability, so i'm wondering whats out there to get around this problem.

any help will be greatly appreciated!


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Magnus
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Look into an awesome VST called Sidekick. Makes sidechaining very easy. You open one instance on the sound you want to duck, and another instance on the sound you want to key the duck. Its very adjustable and the best part, its FREE!! Grab it HERE



Enjoy!


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Seconded, thirded etc this is a very good plugin and use can use four versiosn all running off one trigger. Top banana


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Re: sidechain

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Originally posted by trance-ecj
First, thanks for all the help with my last thread.


i know ableton lack that sidechain ability, so i'm wondering whats out there to get around this problem.


ableton does not lack the ability. also if you google ableton sidechain you'll get about 5 awesome tutorials on how to do it... there are even a few youtube videos out there.

anyways get to know this:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewto...=asc&highlight=

i've written a few in there

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trance-ecj
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thanks for the links.

VERY HELPFUL!


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quote:
Originally posted by Magnus
Look into an awesome VST called Sidekick. Makes sidechaining very easy. You open one instance on the sound you want to duck, and another instance on the sound you want to key the duck. Its very adjustable and the best part, its FREE!! Grab it HERE



Enjoy!

is this effective with cubase? ive always found sidechaining a pain in the ass in cubase.

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is this effective with cubase? ive always found sidechaining a pain in the ass in cubase.


yep
but the dxi one was better though... forgotten what its called. something or rather "mastering suite".

Too bad cubase 4 doesnt support dxi anymore

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anything like this sidechain vst for mac? I have an intel mac and finding UB vst's is one of the hardest things when it comes to production for me. any free or for sale UB sidechain compressor vst's you guys know of? thanks..


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I didn't really like this one plug in, couldn't figure it out in FL
Anything out there similar that lets you use route different sounds to one trigger? I hate adding a peak controller to everything I want side chained.


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I didn't really like this one plug in, couldn't figure it out in FL
Anything out there similar that lets you use route different sounds to one trigger? I hate adding a peak controller to everything I want side chained.


The peak controller method is not a real "sidechain" (as in sidechain compression), it's just gain ducking. They're two different things.

There is no difference between Cubase and FL (or any other for that matter) when it comes to this plugin. Put one instance on your kick/whatever mixer channel and set it to bypass + trigger. But another instance on your bass/whatever mixer channel and set it to duck. Both should be on the same sidechain channel (eg. "a").

It's not that hard, infact this is probably the easiest to use plugin out there. You're just stupid.

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The peak controller method is not a real "sidechain" (as in sidechain compression), it's just gain ducking. They're two different things.

There is no difference between Cubase and FL (or any other for that matter) when it comes to this plugin. Put one instance on your kick/whatever mixer channel and set it to bypass + trigger. But another instance on your bass/whatever mixer channel and set it to duck. Both should be on the same sidechain channel (eg. "a").

It's not that hard, infact this is probably the easiest to use plugin out there. You're just stupid.


lol so they are two different things, thanks for clearing that up. Whats a real "sidechain" sound like? And can it be achieved with software?

lol I think my plugin was broken


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lol so they are two different things, thanks for clearing that up. Whats a real "sidechain" sound like? And can it be achieved with software?

lol I think my plugin was broken


lol I think you was broken

Gain ducking is where the volume of the mixer channel is reduced when the kick or whatever is triggered. A sidechained compressor activates a COMPRESSOR when the kick or whatever is triggered. They probably sound pretty much the same alot of the time, but with a compressor you're reducing the dynamics and not just the level. Hopefully that makes sense!

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