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LazFX
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle
Its stupid****e like this that makes people question.....

The Muslim Clerics that are in charge.....

a small thing as jumping out of a plane for charity causes Muslim Clerics to get bent out of shape.......

I feel for the women of this area.... and the children who will get sick due to some idiot muslim cleric thinking that the Polio Vaccinations are an evil plot from the west....

Holy orders

— Aishah Azmi, the Bradford classroom assistant who refused to remove her veil in school last year, said she was obeying a fatwa issued by a local cleric

— Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a writer and politician, and the director Theo van Gogh were the subject of fatwas for Submission, their short film about Islam's treatment of women. Van Gogh was murdered in 2004

— Last month the Pakistani cleric Maulana Fazal Ullah pronounced a fatwa against polio vaccinations, causing some 4,000 children to go without them. He argued they were a Western plot to cause infertility

— Sania Mirza, a Top 100 tennis player and the highest-ranked female player in Indian history, was put under a fatwa in 2005 demanding that she play in Islamic dress. She has yet to comply with it


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Female Pakistani Minister Resigns Over Hug

Zahid Hussain in Islamabad
The Pakistani Tourism Minister resigned yesterday after hardline Islamic clerics accused her of obscenity for hugging her instructor after a charity parachute jump.

Nilofer Bakhtiar was photographed in brightly coloured jumpsuit and hugging her instructor after a tandem jump to raise money for child victims of the earthquake that struck Pakistan in October 2005.

The images provoked the wrath of clerics in Islamabad, who accused Ms Bakhtiar of posing in an obscene manner and violating the Islamic moral norms.

A religious court set up by the clerics at a radical mosque in Islamabad issued a fatwa, or religious edict, against Ms Bakhtiar when the photographs appeared in local newspapers last month. They urged the Government to punish her and dismiss her from the Cabinet. Ms Bakhtiar failed to win the support of Cabinet colleagues and the Government appeared to cave in to the demands of the militants.

As she announced her intention to resign yesterday, Ms Bakhtiar complained of a campaign of intimidation against her. This month she was sacked as head of the women’s wing of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League.

Ms Bakhtiar denounced the fatwa against her, saying that it had no legal, religious or moral authority. The photographs showed her being congratulated for making the jump at a charity event in France and that the allegations of immoral behaviour were baseless, she said. She had no regrets and would do it again happily if it helped the people of Pakistan.

Ms Bakhtiar told a Senate standing committee that her life was under threat. Human rights and political activists and many other Pakistanis had condemned the campaign against her and expressed support. But the Government did not take any action against the clerics, who are campaigning for the establishment of Taleban-style conservative Islamic rule in the capital, and instead urged her to resign. The clerics have already set up a parallel justice system and openly promote vigilantes in the city.

In a newspaper interview published yesterday Ms Bakhtiar said that she was disappointed that her Cabinet colleagues had not stood by her and hurt by the way that her jump had been sensationalised.

Her resignation was the latest blow to female politicians in Pakistan. Less than two months ago a Punjab provincial minister was shot dead in the eastern city of Gujranwala because she was not wearing a veil.

Maulana Abdul Aziz, the chief cleric of the Lal Mosque in Islamabad, and his brother, Abdur Rashid Gazi, are leading a campaign to establish hardline Sharia. They have openly challenged the Government and encouraged vigilantes to patrol the streets.

The mosque’s baton-wielding devotees have set up so-called morality patrols telling local shops not to sell “unIslamic” music and films. Followers have become a common sight at traffic lights, where they warn women to stop driving as it is a “sin” against Islam.

Shrouded from head to toe in black burkas, female students of a seminary known as Madrassa Hafza attached to the mosque regularly raid houses that they claim are being used as brothels.

Holy orders

— Aishah Azmi, the Bradford classroom assistant who refused to remove her veil in school last year, said she was obeying a fatwa issued by a local cleric

— Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a writer and politician, and the director Theo van Gogh were the subject of fatwas for Submission, their short film about Islam's treatment of women. Van Gogh was murdered in 2004

— Last month the Pakistani cleric Maulana Fazal Ullah pronounced a fatwa against polio vaccinations, causing some 4,000 children to go without them. He argued they were a Western plot to cause infertility

— Sania Mirza, a Top 100 tennis player and the highest-ranked female player in Indian history, was put under a fatwa in 2005 demanding that she play in Islamic dress. She has yet to comply with it

Sources: Times archives

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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

this sounds horrible, but i'm waiting anyday now for Ayaan Hirsi Ali to get killed for the things she says. very courageous women all of them.

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LazFX
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
this sounds horrible, but i'm waiting anyday now for Ayaan Hirsi Ali to get killed for the things she says. very courageous women all of them.



and the woman that jumped is frigging beautiful I might add

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Q5echo
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quote:
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and the woman that jumped is frigging beautiful I might add


maybe you and her can go get your eyebrows plucked together.

i'm kidding man it just came to me. it's late.

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Jake Benson
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maybe you and her can go get your eyebrows plucked together.


Looks like her eyebrows are already plucked...


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LazFX
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quote:
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maybe you and her can go get your eyebrows plucked together.

i'm kidding man it just came to me. it's late.
Oh you and your hairless asian self

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George Smiley
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quote:
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and the woman that jumped is frigging beautiful I might add

Sounds like your opinion of women might not be too disimilar to the Muslim clerics...

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LazFX
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quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Sounds like your opinion of women might not be too disimilar to the Muslim clerics...


I think Arab/Persian women are very beautiful.....its just sad that this kind of thinking still lives in this day and time.....

I espcially like how the clerics/followers
quote:
warn women to stop driving as it is a “sin” against Islam.


that is about plain retarded... the entire world should stand up against this kind of thinking and remove it from our kind like a cancer....

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Lilith
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quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
that is about plain retarded... the entire world should stand up against this kind of thinking and remove it from our kind like a cancer....

They'll sort themselves out eventually, having the west butting in just seems to make them angrier and more insular (edit- actually it probably makes bugger all difference really, they'll find a way to blame the yanks and jews even if nothing is done by either )
Though I do wake up and praise the fact I'm not living under a conservative theocracy, they probably do too...

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LazFX
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quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
They'll sort themselves out eventually, having the west butting in just seems to make them angrier and more insular (edit- actually it probably makes bugger all difference really, they'll find a way to blame the yanks and jews even if nothing is done by either )
Though I do wake up and praise the fact I'm not living under a conservative theocracy, they probably do too...


You are right, these changes need to come with in, not from the West. Its just a shame that these types of ass holes have such a hold over the people.....

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George Smiley
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quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
I think Arab/Persian women are very beautiful.....

Well she's neither!

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LazFX
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Well she's neither!


well then what ever, stop being so nit-picky.... actually she looks kind of indian but no matter..... she could be a Pikey from the UK (i hear o' call likes them pikey women, especially if they own thier own caravan) for all I care, she is still beautiful......


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