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Amp For 2 El-36 Earthquakes????????

I got 2 EL-36 for a killer price of $1100 out the door about 2 years ago and now need a amp. I don't know much about amplifiers or setting up sound so any help on a good amp aroun $1200 or under to push my 2 virgin earthquakes would be much appreciated.



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oh god!

these beasts are the real deal. a little harsh sounding, but a pair of these babies will kill four double 18" bass bins! great choice

for the optimum i would reccommend an amp that deals out at least 1000watts rms @ the ohmage these babies are rated. i guess they are 8ohm? if so, an amp that gives 1000watts @ 8ohm is gonna cost a lot. so if money is tight you should look at something that can push an absolute minimum of 500watts rms per channel@ 8 ohm . buy second hand. and only look at 'crown', 'mc2 audio', 'carver', 'powersoft' or similar quality amps. when you go horn loaded bass like the cv 'earthquakes' it is a waste to go with a peavey or similar priced amp so go for a higher priced beast. the higher the price, the better control you will have on the big drivers in the bins.

good luck, and make sure you dont underpower these or you will not notice until its too late.


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oh, and ps...

putting a tiny 20watts from a home hi-fi into these will create a huge kick! they are so efficient!


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oh god!

these beasts are the real deal. a little harsh sounding, but a pair of these babies will kill four double 18" bass bins! great choice

for the optimum i would reccommend an amp that deals out at least 1000watts rms @ the ohmage these babies are rated. i guess they are 8ohm? if so, an amp that gives 1000watts @ 8ohm is gonna cost a lot. so if money is tight you should look at something that can push an absolute minimum of 500watts rms per channel@ 8 ohm . buy second hand. and only look at 'crown', 'mc2 audio', 'carver', 'powersoft' or similar quality amps. when you go horn loaded bass like the cv 'earthquakes' it is a waste to go with a peavey or similar priced amp so go for a higher priced beast. the higher the price, the better control you will have on the big drivers in the bins.

good luck, and make sure you dont underpower these or you will not notice until its too late.



Thanks alot man!!!!!!! Can't waite to blow a speaker huggin candy ravers drum!!!!!!

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oh, and ps...

putting a tiny 20watts from a home hi-fi into these will create a huge kick! they are so efficient!


Until they get blown from being under powered. Not having enough power is the root cause for 99% of speakers blowing.

At minimum, I would go with a QSC 2450, and that's if you are only driving 1 sub per amp. That will give you 500W Stereo at 8 Ohms. I would recommend going with a Crown XTI 4000 though, those are what I used when I had my club to drive the subs. The XTI series is a kick ass amp, especially if you are going to be mobile. They are light as hell, only weigh 21 lbs vs. 40+ for most others that are the same size.


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Until they get blown from being under powered. Not having enough power is the root cause for 99% of speakers blowing.

At minimum, I would go with a QSC 2450, and that's if you are only driving 1 sub per amp. That will give you 500W Stereo at 8 Ohms. I would recommend going with a Crown XTI 4000 though, those are what I used when I had my club to drive the subs. The XTI series is a kick ass amp, especially if you are going to be mobile. They are light as hell, only weigh 21 lbs vs. 40+ for most others that are the same size.


yes. 20watts is not something to drive an 18" bass driver. i was just trying to give an impression of how efficient these beasts are..

something to add to your advise: it is worth going for an amp with a high damping factor. something like 500 or more. this determines the control the amp has over the cone, and ultimately the price you will have to pay for the amp. amps that are good for bass reinforcement have high damping factors.


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Crown K2. It's one of the few amps that will drive a 4ohm bridged load without excess distortion - this means you can parallel both EL36's and drive them off a single amp in bridged mono mode.

The K2 puts out 2500 watts in 4 ohm bridge mode. plenty of power.

Not only is it one of the few amps to drive a 4 ohm bridged load without distortion, it's one of the few that has a dampening factor of 3000 dampening factor, as rich mentions, is very important when it comes to high powered woofers.

http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/136713.pdf

They are discontinued now but their popularity makes them easy to find on the used market.

I think if you do some research you'll find this is one of the few ways to get this much power into 8 ohm speakers while maintaining low distortion, light weight and high dampening factor. You'll find many amps that can drive a 4ohm bridged load, but 90% of them do so at an increased distortion factor, often 1% THD. You won't find many amps with a 3000 dampening factor, either.

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Crown K2. It's one of the few amps that will drive a 4ohm bridged load without excess distortion - this means you can parallel both EL36's and drive them off a single amp in bridged mono mode.

The K2 puts out 2500 watts in 4 ohm bridge mode. plenty of power.

Not only is it one of the few amps to drive a 4 ohm bridged load without distortion, it's one of the few that has a dampening factor of 3000 dampening factor, as rich mentions, is very important when it comes to high powered woofers.

http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/legacy/136713.pdf

They are discontinued now but their popularity makes them easy to find on the used market.

I think if you do some research you'll find this is one of the few ways to get this much power into 8 ohm speakers while maintaining low distortion, light weight and high dampening factor. You'll find many amps that can drive a 4ohm bridged load, but 90% of them do so at an increased distortion factor, often 1% THD. You won't find many amps with a 3000 dampening factor, either.


3000! thats the highest i have heared of!


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To echo what a lot of other people have mentioned, you should definitely go with Crown amps. Speakers like that need an equally superb amp.


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