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Originally posted by ktracid ahem... cough...cough...using big name dj's to attract attention to thread...cough

...ya my thoughts exacty.

Also hearing a set likely full of deadmau5 and AVB isn't very enticing.

Listen man, it's my first club show, and I am not using them but promoting them...thats kinda how the trance community works. Everybody promoting everbody. It's like, if I spin some Tiesto tracks am I copying Tiesto? No, simply I am promoting his music. When the clubber hears a Tiesto track over the speaker he thinks of Tiesto not the guy spinning the track. Anyway if I type 'Phantom of Electro' and thats it people dont really know whats all involved. This way I am giving people the correct info and whats to be expected, just because I happen to spin the popular atrist dont make it wrong, its giving the people what they really want at a fraction of the cost of an AvB or Tiesto show or anyone else for that matter, and I'm just as good, so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Oh yeah BTW, its not just mau5er or AvB, if ya read the description its a bit of everything from banging electro to trance. Come on guys do a little research before ya slam it, I guess it just shows your level of intelingence. But even if you think you are intelligent, which ya probably do, then how would attract attention to it? Cause I know for sure you wouldn't have clicked on a show simply advertised as Phantom of Electro.

LOL, the guy that says he is a tranceaddict but doesnt think AvB is inticing, the #1 DJ in the world isn't inticing? Give your head a shake and go shovel your driveway saskatchewan. - Out

Look, I don't know what it is with people on the net... this site is specifically for 'trance addicts' as the url denotes. So why attack someone promoting an event for, what in Canada, is an up and coming genre? If I saw a posting for an event that had "house and trance", I'd think it looked a little interesting. If I saw the artists that the performing DJ likes/will be playing, I would think to myself "hmm, this guy knows what he's talking about, he's not in it just because, he's in it because he likes the music and knows his stuff". Obviously if you're members of this site you know who Sander van Doorn, Armin van Buuren and so on are... so I would think that seeing their names in a posting for an event would pretty effectively outline the style that that event will be following. Instead, you instantly call foul on someone trying to describe their event in the best way (I believe) possible. How else could you describe the mood of the evening? You could certainly say house, hard house, psy trance or whatever, but if you've had experience in going to shows like that you know that you can be very dissapointed more often than not. There are plenty of people who play what they think is good trance, but turns out to be hard house instead because they have no idea what they're talking about. So again I say, and thanks to the poster of this event, that in thise case I know pretty much exactly what to expect because I know and respect all the artists listed as stylistic motivation for the event.

Tool^

most people already know what house and trance are you dont need to use other djs names in promoting your party unless there going to be there, thats just foolish



and guetta

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Originally posted by DJ Techja LOL, the guy that says he is a tranceaddict but doesnt think AvB is inticing, the #1 DJ in the world isn't inticing? Give your head a shake and go shovel your driveway saskatchewan. - Out

LMAO.

Clearly you didn't read my post thoroughly enough, and the needless insult I'm afraid only diminishes the validity of your statement. I clearly said that many events claim to play trance and house, and yet they fail to do so in their own ignorance. Posting specific DJ names makes it possible for you to: A: look them up to hear some of their music so you can go prepared, and B: know what to expect and understand that the performing DJ knows what he's doing

all i was commenting about is the lame attempt to promote your event by putting all those big names in the title to attract attention. nothing wrong with promoting it.. just.. take those names out..
"come to this event.. we spin music from artists like this this this and this..!!"

that's what i find "lame"

Feb 15 - PHANTOM OF ELECTRO w/ DJ bla bla and bla bla @ bla bla club

this would be a decent title but

FEB 15 - Phantom of electro.. we play music like bla bla and bla bla mixed with trance.. WOOO! ..... is not great.. at least this is what i understood when i read your title (and to be honest i went inside the thread cause i saw those big names and i was like.. "WTF")

but yea.. i'm the "hater" plus the few 2-3 other people... ignore us since our opinions don't really matter

Ktracid as in Kai Tracid the german trance producer? Man I miss those days he was sick!

Anyway the day after my post I got to thinking...maybe I responded a little to frank (couple extra beers) but hey like I said it's my first club show and I'm new at this stuff. But put yourself in my shoes...I've invested like 10 grr in DJ equip and legal music and all I wanna do now is get efin paid. Besides I've been doing free shows for like a year + now and I just wanted to get the best chance to get some dough. But in saying that it's not all about the money to me, in fact I'm investing in extra club lighting/lasers just for the clubbers to have a decent light show at cheap cost. So with that being said... lets call it a rookie mistake, and in the end I dont wanna fight over trance/house music, cause thats not what its all about...its about love and entertaining and damn good times. But sask I still cant believe you knock AvB and mau5er they are the hottest stuff right now, answer for yourself man... Peace - Out

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoveHate
Tool^

most people already know what house and trance are you dont need to use other djs names in promoting your party unless there going to be there, thats just foolish



Actually your very very wrong. House and especially tance are so diverse you dont really know what your gonna get. I've been to show that say they are trance but infact were psy trance (140+ BMP)which is crap and not mainstream trance at all. Furthermore, to add to my point of false promoting, AvB came last year and his show was stongly promoted as Armin van Buuren 10 YEARS TOUR. So all of us AvB guppies were like 10 years tour? Sweet he gonna play like classics and lots of AvB productions mixed with new ASOT, kinda like Tiesto in concert - all his productions and epics. We were wrong and it was exacly the opposite, I still enjoyed the show but it was marketed wrong and a bit taken back, but whatever, I says to myself if and when I do my show I will give the best accurate description I could. And in my title I didn't say they (mau5, Fedde ect.) were coming I said the styles of... (paraphrase). Oh yeah WTF is with the tool crap. That guy seems pretty damn intelligent to me, just look at his writing skill and multipul points... but they say it takes one to know one so...

A lot of DJs play other producers/DJs songs. You promote their work, yes, but you should change how you advertise to say you play their tracks, or that you play a similar style of DJing to them. To say you play their styles, and then attempt to promote that you DJ in a style unlike anyone else and are playing an 'upcoming' style of DJing/music is a bit cyclical.

Btw, house and trance in the same hour is not unheard of, nor is it unheard of for DJs to play various genres that most don't consider should be under the same roof, and that's fine (ie themed events/nights). I, for one, have been mixing everything from electro/house to uplifting trance for two years. To say it's upcoming and unheard of is a bit of a stretch. Promoting that you mesh styles every track (ie bootlegs, live bootlegging, etc) is something worthwhile promoting, as long as it works (I bootleg a fair bit compared to the overall atypical DJ performance, and I know for a fact 90% of what you bootleg on the first try won't work, but props if you've got that gene).

I for one, think attacking new comers is poor attitude. How do we encourage more people to join this community if the community is so critical of 'scene rules' and 'scene regulations' and what is inappropriate and what is appropriate. There is no code written in stone. Be forgiving and try to make suggestions or bring others up to speed in a benevolent manner. That's what's wrong with this community. A new comer joins the room and immediately gets shunned, you make us look like elitests, and that makes us no better than the people we bitch about.

TAers get your act together, and new guys, welcome to the scene and try to be more thoughtful on how you promote yourselves, but by all means do so. It's a very tough city to crack into, since you apparently have to kiss ass around here just to get booked, let alone given an opportunity to shine (hence why so many of our talented DJs leave the city just to get bookings, ie Danny, ie Kevin Shiu [who came back], ie Mirka, etc).

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