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Krispy Kreme
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copyright / sampling issues

Lets say someone was to sample the vocals of the song Waiting Here For You and take just a split second of the "ta" sound from "take me away". Then use the "ta" sound to make effects or whatever throughout his track... what are the copyright issues for this split second sample from recorded vocals? Is it fine to just use it or would there be a royalty fee / and need to get permission from the artist. If permission is needed, who would be the appropriate person to ask, Thrilseekers (the producer) or Aruna (the vocalist).

Im asking because I happened to make a cool sounding effect from First State - Falling song but was afraid to continue because i didnt want to get sued .

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MrJiveBoJingles
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You can ask Steve Helstrip (Thrillseekers) himself directly on his board:

http://www.thethrillseekers.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php

He usually answers questions within a week or two, in my experience.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Nevermind; I see you already did that.

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Sanguis Mortuum
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Re: copyright / sampling issues

quote:
Originally posted by Krispy Kreme
Is it fine to just use it


No. It doesnt matter how small the part you take is, the entire recording is still covered by copyright law.

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Zombie0729
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right, Moby got sued for a lot for that sample of "GO!" ... just one word

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G-Con
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Technically maybe its illegal, but if the part you have sampled is very small and then on top of this you add FX etc to it then I don't think anyone would ever know whre you got the sample from and I for one wouldn't bother to get permission


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quote:
Originally posted by G-Con
Technically maybe its illegal, but if the part you have sampled is very small and then on top of this you add FX etc to it then I don't think anyone would ever know whre you got the sample from and I for one wouldn't bother to get permission


If you listen to White Room - White Room from Andy Moor, you can tell that its just the vocals from BT - Remember chopped up and used in that song.

I must have listened to White Room 10 times before I realized thats where he got the vocals. I probably wouldn't have even recognized them after that, had I not listened to Remember about a million times (PVD mix still one of my favs).

However, it is still technically illegal, so if you want to keep yourself completely covered, then you may want see if you can find a set of royalty-free vocal sample CD's and just chop those vocals up.

Sometimes a bootleg remix like that can be wildly popular as well, although it better be a REALLY good track to achieve that status. You are taking a massive risk, but it may end up working out in the end. I have heard from a LOT of people that Prydz certainly didn't get Steve Winwoods' permission before writing Call On Me. The thing about that is if the track proves to be in demand, then its probably going to be easier to get clearence, albiet more expensive.

It's still very hard to find an original copy of Prodigy - Full Throttle, because they got in trouble for the Star Wars sample, and Scott Hardkiss - Phoenix sampled ELO illegially, so thats even harder to find.

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Krispy Kreme
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thanks for the replies guys

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Krispy Kreme
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Nevermind; I see you already did that.



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Project-K
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It's illegal, but if you edit it to the point where it can't be reconized, no one will bother looking into it. Except now this thread will serve as evidence. Well played, sir.


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If you do it only for your personal use you can do whatever you feel like.


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But it's still illegal!


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