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Haak
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Registered: Jun 2001
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[Video] Robert Babicz on mastering

Here's a pretty interesting clip with Robert Babicz aka Rob Acid in the studio talking about his mastering.

http://www.vimeo.com/808485


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Beyer
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Great video!

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Lucidity
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Awesome, I want his studio!!! especially the tape reel

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Beyer
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I might send him a track for mastering, next time I finish something good. Would be nice to hear what it would sound like, after running the mix through all that stuff.

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quote:
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I might send him a track for mastering, next time I finish something good. Would be nice to hear what it would sound like, after running the mix through all that stuff.


Wonder what the cost would be

Edit: Looks like he wants 80 euros + 19% tax per track. Thought it'd be more. Would definitely be cool to see the difference he can make. I bet he's pretty selective though.


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He says avoid Limiters and mastering devices.

But doesn't really explain technically why, expect saying it's not good for club systems.

Which somehow i doubt.


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Interesting video. I liked what he had to say about presets:

"I despise presets, a current musician's disease. Listening into various productions, people hardly try making sounds themselves anymore. If you listen more closely you can distinguish, "Ah, he took the preset from that sound, then did this and that to it." Everyone only uses these unbelievable worlds of preset sounds, although it's so easy to dramatically tune sounds with fine changes. You only have to want to."

And the way that mastering has become so important in selling a track:

"Mastering has extremely gained in importance for many people; it's also a sales criterion. You simply have a record that sounds good and is assertive. It really makes a racket in clubs. DJs prefer to play those rather than musically superb records which, however, get totally lost in clubs."

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Haak
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quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
He says avoid Limiters and mastering devices.

But doesn't really explain technically why, expect saying it's not good for club systems.

Which somehow i doubt.


I think he just means when people who don't know what they're doing just slap one on the master to get the track sounding loud, but end up squashing all the dynamics of the track.


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pozz
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quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
He says avoid Limiters and mastering devices.

But doesn't really explain technically why, expect saying it's not good for club systems.

Which somehow i doubt.


depends what you are listening for, and your expectations for a tune.

he did explain, but i guess he assumed that everyone knew what a limiter does. he said (i'm paraphrasing) "i dislike rectangles on the waveform display". imagine you put a song in your waveform display of choice and all you see is a rectangle the whole way (except if there is a breakdown or some sort of break, then it'll probably have a concave curve and little dips). what does that mean in a technical sense? it means a minimal amount of volume variation throughout the track - aka a loss of dynamics. the outcome is that the track sounds loud, but must importantly it sounds tedious. there's no sense of tension and release, or even build.

i could continue, but this stuff available all over the internetz. i guess the importance of all this is that volume really makes a track. you can argue all you want about how people use to be more creative way back in the day, but really the difference is about +8db or so.

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Great video, cheers for sharing! Babicz is a master of mastering!

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meDina
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cool vid... anyone know the tracklist they used for the vid... or at least the same song that kept repeating.... unless it was all just 1 song.


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Falck
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Really good vid ... do I have to throw away my great Oxford limiter now?

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