I was really thinking about this hard, the fact of where all my really good sounds or tracks come from.

**(rant warning)**
I know how fx are going to change a sound to a degree. And I can have an idea of what throwing a crash through a crusher and gate will result in.

But EVERYTIME, all of my best sounds or mixes have always happened by *accident.
Because we all know a small tweak can make a big difference. And what drives me really crazy, is this. A dumb example but its a slice of what I do all the time.

My thinking when I'm making something new >>

"Cool loop, its got a groove but it sounds too simple.. too 'already heard' before.
Let me get it shuffling a bit..
..
.. oh, ok.. I like. But its like I'm looking for sugar and am only finding aspartame still.
I know!
I'll open Glitch and crush it!

I never liked what a crusher does when the setting are more then a little bit. Its that little bit of distortion I like, but I wish it could somehow amplify that little bit so it sounds like A LOT. Once you crush too much it sounds the same no matter what the sound is.

So rather then turn up the crush knob I open another glitch. Run the hardly crushed sound through another hardly crushing glitch channel. Oooh, I like that, had no idea it would sound like THAT, pretty cool.

But still sounds like something that didn't take a lot of work.

*thinking*

Lets send it through a phaser and play with some knobs. (play with knobs for 15 mins)
.. no, grr.. lets try a flanger!

(in like 5 seconds)
Omg! I love it! Those crushed hats really have some beautiful overtones to them.
Thats the sweet spot I was looking for."

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This is how like all of my good sounds are discovered.
Like I have an *idea of what might happen to a sound, but I can't imagine anyone hearing a sound in their head and thinking "ok I need to use this & this, set it exactly to this, and I'll get that sound".

And thats what I hate.
Its like science but its not at all.
And I feel like my really best work has come from making mistakes, studying why they worked (or why I THINK they worked) then using them as a template to make more and better mistakes in the future.

Am I fucking crazy?

The brain works on composites. It will be impossible for you to develop a new sound inside there.

Synthesis relies on serendipity.

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Originally posted by Watts The brain works on composites. It will be impossible for you to develop a new sound inside there. Synthesis relies on serendipity.

Wow, very poetic and to the point. I agree. I still hate it lol.

I make a lot of my favorite sounds by accident as well.

I know a decent amount about synthesis, so I'm pretty good at imitating sounds I've already heard. But it's usually the sounds that I never really thought about before that end up being my favorites, the ones I chance upon just by playing around semi-randomly.

Yeh its weird what kind of takes you can gather on it.

Just reading these few responses it seems like a "producer" is more an "explorer" and that a lot of what we wind up putting value in will be things we stumble on accidentally.

Its cool but I still wish there was more predictability in it.

I think it is good habit to just have time to play around with your synthesizers, but don't get too lost doing it (happens to me all the time)!

I also think it is good to study presets when you get a new synth. Some people I know clear the factory presets as soon as they get them. That's all well and good; however, presets generally give me a good idea of what the synth is capable of and hopefully inspire some new ideas.

whats drives me crazy is that i dont have enough time to produce.

I work on randomness too. If I have a sound in my head I can never replicate it and if I somehow manage to replicate it, it never quite fits in.

Random sounds always sound good and fit in.

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Originally posted by palm whats drives me crazy is that i dont have enough time to produce.

here here.

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Originally posted by palm whats drives me crazy is that i dont have enough time to produce.

Same here

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Originally posted by Ry Thomas Same here

+1.

However, in a few short weeks I finish my M.A. degree and producing will become a greater priority for me