I didn't realize a non-living entity was capable of "being at it again." When Stalin committed genocide, would it be fair to say "atheism at it again" or "communism at it again." As a self proclaimed liberal, I assume you're familiar with the concept of not making bigoted generalizations... especially when they go beyond that, and are downright retarded.

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I didn't realize a non-living entity was capable of "being at it again."

non-living entities are meaningless until put into action by people. people often put islam into practice in rather negative fashions. islam is nothing but the principles and practices of its adherents. you are what you eat.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z When Stalin committed genocide, would it be fair to say "atheism at it again" or "communism at it again."

you would have to make a causal link between stalin's atheism and his butchery. i think the link between islamists and intolerance is rather well established.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z As a self proclaimed liberal, I assume you're familiar with the concept of not making bigoted generalizations... especially when they go beyond that, and are downright retarded.

which generalisation are you referring to? are you denying there is a large minority of islamic believers that do their faith injustice? this is just another example of islam at odds with modern society. are you saying that this isn't a common occurrence? coz im sure i could go and google a plethora of examples of islam being a driving force behind intolerance and dogmatism. yes, christianity is just as bad, but they're not the ones banning the australian anthem.

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What's their beef with the Australian national anthem?

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy What's their beef with the Australian national anthem?

who knows. admittedly its no star spangled banner, but its ok.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN non-living entities are meaningless until put into action by people. people often put islam into practice in rather negative fashions. islam is nothing but the principles and practices of its adherents. you are what you eat. you would have to make a causal link between stalin's atheism and his butchery. i think the link between islamists and intolerance is rather well established. which generalisation are you referring to? are you denying there is a large minority of islamic believers that do their faith injustice? this is just another example of islam at odds with modern society. are you saying that this isn't a common occurrence? coz im sure i could go and google a plethora of examples of islam being a driving force behind intolerance and dogmatism. yes, christianity is just as bad, but they're not the ones banning the australian anthem.

Nevermind, I'm obviously not talking to rational person or an adult. Way to completely miss the point. Get help.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Way to completely miss the point.

what, that i said 'islam' rather than 'islamic schools' or 'islamic teachers' ? meh.

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Are Australian colleges generally state-funded? I honestly have no clue.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Are Australian colleges generally state-funded? I honestly have no clue.

virtually all australian schools/colleges/universities are state funded, including the 'private' religious schools.

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I went to an Anglican high-school and I can't ever remember singing the national anthem at an assembly. I'm not really one for conspicuous displays of nationalism, so I can't really say I disagree with any school who wants to cut that sort of business out, but if the details of this story are correct (i.e. sacking someone just for suggesting the anthem be played - I'm skeptical tbh) then the school really is pretty dumb. The tabloid press is going to have a field day with this.

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Originally posted by Renegade I went to an Anglican high-school and I can't ever remember singing the national anthem at an assembly. I'm not really one for conspicuous displays of nationalism, so I can't really say I disagree with any school who wants to cut that sort of business out, but if the details of this story are correct (i.e. sacking someone just for suggesting the anthem be played - I'm skeptical tbh) then the school really is pretty dumb. The tabloid press is going to have a field day with this.

yeah, im not a fan of conspicuous displays of nationalism either. and i have no issue with anyone NOT playing the anthem, as long as there isn't a "ban". especially not a ban that ultimately creates division and entrenches the "us and them" mentality.

im certainly not in favour of pushing religious identification over national identification, even if the latter is hardly my favourite thing ever.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN including the 'private' religious schools.

See, that's the fucked part. A private business should be allowed to fire whomever they want on ethical grounds [pending certain rights granted by government] but if people are being fired over religious issues, that should be the end of state funding.

No doubt this sort of shit happens in the US as well. We really should start taxing churches, too.

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