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kitphillips
is actually a guy.

Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

Put your money where your mouth is

OK, it had to happen and it needs a new thread.

quote:
Take a single saw, decrease the filter and put a slight unison detune on it.
And it will already sound better than most softsynths, add some delay and you are a mile ahead.

Due to quotes like this, I'm going to ask the "software is thin and nasty" crowd to put their money where their mouths are.

Subtle, if this is true, then please post a 320 kbit mp3 of this sound playing both single notes and chords and we'll see if I (or someone else) can make it (or something better) in software. Make it a short clip to keep the size down, but make sure you play over the entire key range.

I'm not going to claim that I'll definately be able to do it, because I'm a poor synth programmer. But I'll have a crack, and I know ther will be someone on this board who can do it.

EDIT: Sorry, wrong quote.

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Last edited by kitphillips on Mar-04-2009 at 05:32

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Storyteller
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands

This is going to be interesting.

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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

Very nice initiative, this is going to get fun

Well, here it is.

VIRUS TEST

A single Virus Saw, with 4 unison.. with a slight delay, and increasing filter cutoff.

VIRUS TEST NO DELAY

Same but with no delay

Keep in mind that you must only use the same settings as i have.

Here is the MIDI

Bring it on.

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Last edited by Subtle on Mar-03-2009 at 12:30

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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: London UK

Sounds nice, but post the damn midi.

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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Sounds nice, but post the damn midi.
Done

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Mar-03-2009 10:29 Norway

asdfg
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If it's going to be a fair test, you should remove the effects (delay etc) and probably just start with a single osc before using unison.

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kitphillips
is actually a guy.

Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Very nice initiative, this is going to get fun

Well, here it is.

VIRUS TEST

A single Virus Saw, with 4 unison, full detune.. with a slight delay, and increasing filter cutoff.

Keep in mind that you must only use the same settings as i have.

Here is the MIDI

Bring it on.

OK. Give me a little while, I might not be able to finish it till tomorrow morning, but we'll see.

I probably won't use the exact same settings, I'll aim for the same sound, with similar numbers of oscillators and filters.

And then I'll challence you with a relatively simple sound from a VST, and we'll use that to see whether your virus can do the same things as my VST

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Mar-03-2009 11:46 Australia

EgosXII
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echosystm
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take the delay off, it confuses things... osc+filter are the main thing for us to look at.

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Subtle
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
take the delay off, it confuses things... osc+filter are the main thing for us to look at.
Ok added one with no delay.
Keep in mind though, that the delay is an important feature of the virus sound.

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Last edited by Subtle on Mar-03-2009 at 12:38

Mar-03-2009 12:30 Norway

Bren-F
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Liverpool

Reason Thor: 1 Osc + Unison and Delay:
http://www.filefreak.com/pfiles/88678/Thor1%20wet.mp3

Reason Thor: 1 Osc + Unison & No Delay
http://www.filefreak.com/pfiles/88678/Thor1%20dry.mp3

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Subtle
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quote:
Originally posted by Bren-F
Reason Thor: 1 Osc + Unison and Delay:
http://www.filefreak.com/pfiles/88678/Thor1%20wet.mp3

Reason Thor: 1 Osc + Unison & No Delay
http://www.filefreak.com/pfiles/88678/Thor1%20dry.mp3

Not bad

I`ll let others be the judge about what sounds better though.