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Jarvmeister
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Photoshop - does anyone else not get it????

Right, I can do most things on a PC. I can build a website (just about), I can strip a PC or a laptop and put it together again, I can setup and install all versions of Windows, from 3.1x to Windows 7, including all servers from NT onwards.

I can do pretty much anything with a PC or server.

What I just can't get to grips with is Photoshop. I must have spent about 4 hours tonight, and I've only just about grasped the very basics, like layers and what not.

Would I be naive if I said I thought it wasn't very intuitive? In the 4 hours I've been frustratedly struggling with this undoubtedly hugely powerful program, I could have achieved what I've produced within 5 minutes in Paintbrush.

I've never felt so demoralised.

I've just grabbed a copy of PS CS4 for dummies, and I'm hoping it might shine a light.

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lücid
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i find video tutorials to be extremely helpful.


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Jarvmeister
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That actually helped, that ctrl-T to resize the selection will come in pretty handy!

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woscar
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That video was awesome


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Joss Weatherby
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Re: Photoshop - does anyone else not get it????

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Right, I can do most things on a PC. I can build a website (just about), I can strip a PC or a laptop and put it together again, I can setup and install all versions of Windows, from 3.1x to Windows 7, including all servers from NT onwards.

I can do pretty much anything with a PC or server.

What I just can't get to grips with is Photoshop. I must have spent about 4 hours tonight, and I've only just about grasped the very basics, like layers and what not.

Would I be naive if I said I thought it wasn't very intuitive? In the 4 hours I've been frustratedly struggling with this undoubtedly hugely powerful program, I could have achieved what I've produced within 5 minutes in Paintbrush.

I've never felt so demoralised.

I've just grabbed a copy of PS CS4 for dummies, and I'm hoping it might shine a light.




All those things you described that you are good at in reality have little to nothing to do with working with PS.

Its like saying "I know how to work on cars, but every time I get in one I crash!"

Well if you have never actually driven a car... then there you go.


YA I KNOW CAR ANALOGY SHUT UP.

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Slylee
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when i was going to the art institute i struggled with the program. got a C in that class.

i'm really not that great with in-depth, artsy/music programs at all. i need someone to babysit me and talk me through every step while i take notes.


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honesty the best thing to do is familiarize yourself with all the tools and the different palettes. once you figure out where everything is and what it does, it's actually a very simple to use and intuitive program. you can't expect to pick it up in a few hours (unless you have previous experience with other graphics programs) but just scour the web for video and written tutorials. the more you play around with it the better you will get.

also, keyboard shortcuts are your friend and will save you so much time once you understand the program.


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LeopoldStotch
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Re: Re: Photoshop - does anyone else not get it????

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All those things you described that you are good at in reality have little to nothing to do with working with PS.

Its like saying "I know how to work on cars, but every time I get in one I crash!"

Well if you have never actually driven a car... then there you go.


YA I KNOW CAR ANALOGY SHUT UP.


nah i think a better analogy would be like he would say :

"I know how a car works. I have built cars from scratch before. I know how to change my own oil, spark plugs, custom paint my hood, tint my windows, check the carborator, and the differences in european vs asian vs american cars. However, when someone asks me to take apart a car part, and give an explanation how each part in that car part is important to the car, I can't do that."


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http://www.adobe.com/support/photoshop/

http://tv.adobe.com/#pd+Photoshop


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Slylee
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quote:
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honesty the best thing to do is familiarize yourself with all the tools and the different palettes. once you figure out where everything is and what it does, it's actually a very simple to use and intuitive program. you can't expect to pick it up in a few hours (unless you have previous experience with other graphics programs) but just scour the web for video and written tutorials. the more you play around with it the better you will get.

also, keyboard shortcuts are your friend and will save you so much time once you understand the program.


yea a big part of my problem with computer programs is the patience part that i lack. i'll spend like 30 minutes on it and get nowhere and be like, 'fuck i hate this program!' lol


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lücid
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yea a big part of my problem with computer programs is the patience part that i lack. i'll spend like 30 minutes on it and get nowhere and be like, 'fuck i hate this program!' lol

i completely understand that frustration. it's happened to me anytime i've opened any program for music production.

i guess i lucked out because i played with all sorts of graphics programs as a kid. i remember getting to my Photoshop class in high school and instead of learning all the basics i was helping my teacher instruct all the other students in the class.


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quote:
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i find video tutorials to be extremely helpful.



awesome


also, this is an awesome course

http://www.photoshoptopsecret.com/


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