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| quote: | Originally posted by Moongoose
Radical far left? Seriously, which drugs are you on, they are barely liberal as it is, let alone far left. |
You're telling me.... that the people in charge right now are not far left? Nancy Pelosi is moderate? Harry Reid? Barack Obama with the most liberal voting record in the Senate? They are barely liberal? I suppose the Pope is barely Catholic too. Crazy. This country is center-right... which is precisely WHY their agenda is being rejected; it is too far to the left.
| quote: | | But since republicans did all their best to kill the reform that people actually wanted you dont get to complain about this. |
That isn't accurate at all. They tried to ram it through in the summer before anyone read it; even most of them admitted they didn't. And the more time that passed, the more details came out... and the more people didn't want it. It's not just Republicans that oppose it's substace... I mean, what do you think today's election in 3.5 to 1 Democrat Massachusetts was about?
| quote: | | The last poll about health care that i was bothered to look (from about a month ago i think) at still showed that the majority of people support and want the health care reform. |
It's been solid for 2 months... support for Obamacare across all polls are between 35-42% in favor, and 52-60+ against. And it's like that in every state. The people don't want it, and they (government) don't care.
| quote: | | You know, i recently reread 1984, a lot of time has passed since ive read it last and i just waned to refresh my memory of it since it comes up in health care arguments. The thing is nothing in there about helth care. Plenty about the government spying on its own people, legislating morality and sstarting meaningless wars. Plenty more connections to Orwell by the previous than the current administration. |
I mean, Orwellian in the sense that they are omnipresent in all aspects of our lives. But legislating morality does come in to play; the healthcare issue is full of moral discussion.
| quote: | | And if all else fails, there's still reconciliation. |
This is true... but if they go that route, and pass it against the will of the people they are supposed to represent, they don't deserve to govern, and that will play out in November for certain.
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