I'm sure most of you have heard this song.

Dark By Design - Blackout




Can you give me something more intense than that build-up? I have yet to play anything in a closed area (say a car with a good system, and LOUD) that has the paralyzing, overloading-the-senses vice grip that this song has for those few moments. It doesn't have to be hard trance, by the way, and it doesn't have to necessarily be the build-up of the song. Just a part of a song that has managed to reach that "maximum capacity" feel in your mind that differentiates it from all the other music that sounds good to you. (It's not an emotional thing by the way, it's a transcendent aural invasion of your senses. Maybe you'll cry an emotional tear or something after it's happened, but it is separate from that "Candle in the Wind" or "Puff the Magic Dragon" emotional reaction that you don't want anyone else to know you are having, if that makes sense.)

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Class Tunes:

Hardfloor - Don't Trust Chief Wiggum
The Black Dog - Train by the Autobahn (Part 2)
Luke Solomon - Space Invaders (Andromat 3000 Remix)
Shed - Well Done (033472 Edit)
Shlomi Aber feat. Lemon - Moods

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Originally posted by stealthman

but

The build-up is neat, the rest of the track is pretty lame. Especially the drop.......................................BLACKOUT.

You get the notion that the entire thing exists solely for the UBER EPIC breakdown, which is hardly entrancing. I prefer a build-up to not be so grandiose that you lose grip on the proportions of the whole thing, a good example would be 00.db's Entropy.

EDIT: oops, accidentally hit submit on a lag spike. Anyway here it is:



Right after the 4:00 mark, I think 4:20 to be exact. There's a upward shift of momentum without losing the concept of the whole, which you know, makes it all trance-like.

EDIT #2: sorry about the lame youtube video advertising piracy, it was the only upload of the song I could find that I could upload in the U.S.

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entropy is such a lame name for a edm track as level of entropy is hardly present in edm anymore, or ever was.

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Originally posted by couch-potato but The build-up is neat, the rest of the track is pretty lame. Especially the drop.......................................BLACKOUT. You get the notion that the entire thing exists solely for the UBER EPIC breakdown, which is hardly entrancing. I prefer a build-up to not be so grandiose that you lose grip on the proportions of the whole thing, a good example would be 00.db's Entropy. Right after the 4:00 mark, I think 4:20 to be exact. There's a upward shift of momentum without losing the concept of the whole, which you know, makes it all trance-like.

I agree with your analysis of Blackout. After that build-up, I usually listen for a few seconds then change the song; its like the rest of the song can't hold the heavy weight it produces during its peak. It pretty much does sound like the song was produced solely for that buildup.

As for your song, I definitely enjoy a producer that can increase the momentum it creates throughout a song while maintaining its "concept" as you put it. Entropy has that quality much more than Blackout.

One of the best examples I have of a song increasing in momentum at a steady pace is Santos - Pump It Up




Here is another song that reaches "maximum capacity" in the end:




This song ALMOST achieves it for me, but I'm sharing it because it is awesome regardless

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Class Tunes:

Hardfloor - Don't Trust Chief Wiggum
The Black Dog - Train by the Autobahn (Part 2)
Luke Solomon - Space Invaders (Andromat 3000 Remix)
Shed - Well Done (033472 Edit)
Shlomi Aber feat. Lemon - Moods

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Originally posted by nortek entropy is such a lame name for a edm track as level of entropy is hardly present in edm anymore, or ever was.

I guess you think a lot of names are lame

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This thing never stops building.

it stops at 8:47

wow that build is pretty intense yes, mmm first track i've thought is Simon Patterson - Thump has a similar structure with that pitched and distorted kick.

This 2 tracks have an intense build but in different way:





This last track has a very emotive build and an amazing drop, probably my favourite track this year, intense in a different way, i've seen videos people recording this track and their camera tremble is an undescriptable feeling

Don't know if this is what you meant, but these came up:



Different but starting @1:10 it gets

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Originally posted by Redd I guess you think a lot of names are lame

yes but i dont blame them, its tricky. actually the most tricky part of music imo, is naming. atleast edm, i fail totally myself lol.

stop calling it edm because you can't dance to any of this shite.