1. Walk to music shop.
2. Ask same question to guitar expert.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!

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That sucks. If you're sure that is the cause of your bass going out of tune, I would pick up some Gotoh locking tuners:

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/..._Tuner_Set.html

Make sure you buy the right diameter, or they won't fit.

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ and simply have an allen key pinned to the headstock of the bass guitar. does anything like said above exist?

I doubt any general purpose bolt would have the proper thread count/pitch/length/diameter to work in a bass tuning device. Its more complicated than threading bolt into a nut, it has to stay in the same position while it turns.

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You probably could replace them with some sort of allen key screw if they are the same diameter and thread, but would be a pain the ass to tune with an allen key imo, especially if you use it in a live performance situation. If you end up looking for another bass, check out the Washburn 'Bantom' range for something different as they have no headstock and are tuned at the bridge.

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Originally posted by Teezdalien You probably could replace them with some sort of allen key screw if they are the same diameter and thread, but would be a pain the ass to tune with an allen key imo, especially if you use it in a live performance situation. If you end up looking for another bass, check out the Washburn 'Bantom' range for something different as they have no headstock and are tuned at the bridge.

thanks for the responses guise.

yeah i couldnt find anything relating to what i am after but from what i've read in yo responses, you certainly understand what i am after.

i dont think it'll be a huge pain in the ass to tune up in a live enviroment because we would or dare i say should of tuned up prior to performing..(we dont jump between drop tunings etc)

it looks like i might have to invent this said tuning mechanism and patent it

just need to find the correct threading and worm inserts.

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ thanks for the responses guise. yeah i couldnt find anything relating to what i am after but from what i've read in yo responses, you certainly understand what i am after. i dont think it'll be a huge pain in the ass to tune up in a live enviroment because we would or dare i say should of tuned up prior to performing..(we dont jump between drop tunings etc) it looks like i might have to invent this said tuning mechanism and patent it just need to find the correct threading and worm inserts.

especially if you are using new strings then they will lose tension pretty frequently. sometimes you might need to do a quick turn of the keys while playing. asking some guy in a guitar shop will probably net you better advice

dude, just leave the original tuners on there man. allen wrench/hex key/whatever screws will only cause more hassles, and who says they're any better at keeping the strings in tune?

tbh if your tuners aren't maintaining the strings' pitch, then i would probably just tighten them up a bit at the gear to give it less play. in that original pic, i think tightening that phillips head screw in the center of the gear would solve your problems (that's just an educated guess though).

you also realize that it will take a little bit of time to wear in your new bass guitar strings, right? they will go out of tune for probably the first couple of days to a week of you re-stringing your axe. the rope-like part of the string (that you loop through the tuners) will stretch a bit at first which will kill your tuning until you "break them in," so to speak. same thing happens to a greater extent with nylon strings on acoustic guitars.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue dude, just leave the original tuners on there man. allen wrench/hex key/whatever screws will only cause more hassles, and who says they're any better at keeping the strings in tune? tbh if your tuners aren't maintaining the strings' pitch, then i would probably just tighten them up a bit at the gear to give it less play. in that original pic, i think tightening that phillips head screw in the center of the gear would solve your problems (that's just an educated guess though). you also realize that it will take a little bit of time to wear in your new bass guitar strings, right? they will go out of tune for probably the first couple of days to a week of you re-stringing your axe. the rope-like part of the string (that you loop through the tuners) will stretch a bit at first which will kill your tuning until you "break them in," so to speak. same thing happens to a greater extent with nylon strings on acoustic guitars.

ya i know about the breaking in the new strings but these strings have been on there since the beginning of time..its when i place the bass on my amp for example and someone nudges into it and it throws the tuning out (its out of clumsyness than anything else) so if i remove them ears...PROFIT?

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ ya i know about the breaking in the new strings but these strings have been on there since the beginning of time..its when i place the bass on my amp for example and someone nudges into it and it throws the tuning out (its out of clumsyness than anything else) so if i remove them ears...PROFIT?

Ohhhhh

dude, you could always invest in a bass with a locking neck. my aria pro ii jackson copy has one of those. it's got hex key screws with little plates on them that locks the strings in place- they won't lose their pitch for shit, unless you defecate on them with the whammy bar. hell, if the strings break from the headstock/tuners to the neck locking pieces, the strings will still remain attached and won't lose their tune. they look like this:



or you could buy some locking tuners, like the ones sperzel makes. something like this:



granted, these are for guitars, but i'm sure they make them for basses as well.

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue Ohhhhh dude, you could always invest in a bass with a locking neck. my aria pro ii jackson copy has one of those. it's got hex key screws with little plates on them that locks the strings in place- they won't lose their pitch for shit, unless you defecate on them with the whammy bar. hell, if the strings break from the headstock/tuners to the neck locking pieces, the strings will still remain attached and won't lose their tune. they look like this: or you could buy some locking tuners, like the ones sperzel makes. something like this: granted, these are for guitars, but i'm sure they make them for basses as well.

yeh i've seen them around coupled with the floyd rose tremolo on guitars but to be honest i dont think they keep it much in tune anyway, it just cuts the strings up..

all it does is clamp them to the neck, theres no tension involved with that setup

the spirzel ones look interesting but expensive at the same time...im really after a simple allen head pin to drop into the machine, to replace the head if you like lol

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Originally posted by Omega_Blue Ohhhhh dude, you could always invest in a bass with a locking neck. my aria pro ii jackson copy has one of those. it's got hex key screws with little plates on them that locks the strings in place- they won't lose their pitch for shit, unless you defecate on them with the whammy bar. hell, if the strings break from the headstock/tuners to the neck locking pieces, the strings will still remain attached and won't lose their tune. they look like this: or you could buy some locking tuners, like the ones sperzel makes. something like this: granted, these are for guitars, but i'm sure they make them for basses as well.

I've never come across a headstock with machine heads and a locking nut on a bass. Not to say they don't exist, but hey must be very, very rare though. The closest thing I've seen is the 'Bantam' bass I mentioned earlier which has no headstock at all.

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