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jester
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: The End of Elsewhere by Taras Grescoe
This is Canada for you.

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Ian Thomson moved to a rural homestead in Southwestern Ontario to lead a quiet life investing in a little fixer-upper. Then his neighbour’s chickens began showing up on his property. He warned his neighbour, then killed one of the birds.

The incident began six years of trouble for Mr. Thomson that culminated early one Sunday morning last August when the 53-year-old former mobile-crane operator woke up to the sound of three masked men firebombing his Port Colborne, Ont., home.

“I was horrified,” he said. “I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t know what was happening. I had no idea what was going on.”

So Mr. Thomson, a former firearms instructor, grabbed one of his Smith & Wesson revolvers from his safe, loaded it and headed outside dressed in only his underwear.

“He exited his house and fired his revolver two, maybe three times, we’re not sure. Then these firebombing culprits, they ran off,” said his lawyer, Edward Burlew.

His surveillance cameras caught the attackers lobbing at least six Molotov cocktails at his house and bombing his doghouse, singeing one of his Siberian Huskies. But when Mr. Thomson handed the video footage to Niagara Regional Police, he found himself charged with careless use of a firearm.

The local Crown attorney’s office later laid a charge of pointing a firearm, along with two counts of careless storage of a firearm. The Crown has recommended Mr. Thomson go to jail, his lawyer said.

His collection of seven guns, five pistols and two rifles was seized, along with his firearms licence. Mr. Thomson said he lives in fear that his attackers will return and has taken to arming himself with a fire extinguisher.

“I don’t have enemies,” said the soft-spoken man, who now studies environmental geosciences full-time at Brock University after being injured in a workplace accident. “I don’t know that many people. I’m a quiet man. I just want to go back to my life and be able to live out my days in relative peace.”

Mr. Thomson’s is the latest in a series of high-profile cases in which people have been charged after defending their homes and businesses against criminals. Central Alberta farmer Brian Knight became a local hero after shooting a thief who was trying to steal his ATV. He pleaded guilty to criminal negligence earlier this month. In October, Toronto shopkeeper David Chen was acquitted of forcible confinement charges after he tied up a repeat shoplifter and demanded he stop raiding his grocery store.

Their cases are renewing calls for Canada to introduce a version of the “Castle Doctrine” found in many U.S. states, which allows citizens to defend their property with force.


“I hear some people, some being police officers, some being Crown attorneys, some being ordinary people, say we don’t want vigilantism, to which I can only give an emphatic pardon me?” Mr. Burlew said. “When you’re under attack, it’s not a vigilante act. Vigilantism talks about vengeance and retribution. This is about saving your life and saving your property.

“I’m sure that will be recognized at trial, but why would a citizen, where it’s so obvious that what he was doing was protecting himself during a continued attack, be put to the expense of a trial? It’s demeaning.”

Canada allows people to claim self-defence for using force, including guns, to protect their life as long as the force is reasonable and they believe they have no other options.

“If the public are wondering can you run out of your house and [fire a handgun at an intruder], the bottom line is, according to the laws of Canada, no, you can’t,” said Constable Nilan Dave of the Niagara Regional Police Service, which charged Mr. Thomson. “That’s why the courts are there, to give a person an opportunity to explain their actions.”

Mr. Burlew, a Toronto-area lawyer whose practice mainly consists of firearms-related charges, said he is trying to hire a psychiatrist to prove that Mr. Thomson feared for his life when he grabbed his revolver. A target shooter and hunting-safety instructor, Mr. Thomson had the skill to shoot his attackers if he’d wanted to, Mr. Burlew said, but missed on purpose.

Police said no one was injured in the shooting and the attackers got into a car and sped off. They charged Randy Weaver, 48, of Port Colborne, and Justin Lee, 19, of Welland, with arson in December, alleging the men and a third suspect “intentionally set the home on fire while the homeowner was inside.”

Mr. Thomson’s neighbour, who had received a suspended sentence for uttering threats against Mr. Thomson in 2007, has not been charged in connection with the attack on his house.

Mr. Thomson said he has added extra security to his home after the firebombing and hardly sleeps anymore. The charges, he said, have destroyed him.

“This is just an absolute nightmare, this whole thing,” he said. “People need to know that this is what can happen to you and which side of the victim line do you want to stand on? Lying down dead or in court? That’s the way it seems it has to go.”


Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/0.../#ixzz1BhxbwrQK

Its funny, the only people with the right to fight back are the police. Yet when it comes to everyone else you are fucked.

Canada allows people to claim self-defence for using force, including guns, to protect their life as long as the force is reasonable and they believe they have no other options. BS! Someone trying to kill you and you kill them, you will get charged with murder no matter what this sentence is telling you.

Someone should firebomb the judge, lets see how he takes that.

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Euphorica
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yup this place is a joke...

and we just let it keep happening


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“I don’t have enemies”


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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario

what a sad country we live in. Not able to defend yourself or your property without getting charged. Absolute bullshit.

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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

law or no law... if someone attacks me im defending myself. There are bullshit laws, and then there is instinct.


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Everything in this country is illegal.

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yup this place is a joke...


its still better than places where random people die when random anti-social people decide to take random lives b/c they were treated badly in high school or their spouse lost their health care coverage, etc.


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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

fuck the system... 10/10 times if i see someone trying to take something away from me, I'm gonna react and it won't be pretty.


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Yohan
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan

If those 3 punks tried to firebomb my house, there would have been 3 dead punks instead.

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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
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Originally posted by thesauce23
its still better than places where random people die when random anti-social people decide to take random lives b/c they were treated badly in high school or their spouse lost their health care coverage, etc.


you mean like canada?

Montreal Ecole Polytechnique, Dawson College, and Tabor Alberta come to mind


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Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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infinity HiGH
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: west side T.O

We're getting fucked from all sides. Big telecom, the law, local/provincial/federal government, insurance, hydro...and Canadians are so apathetic that they take it because it wouldn't be very "Canadian-like" to speak up. Or some other stupid shit like that.

Unless it's hockey, of course. You mess with hockey then shit is going down.

Eh?

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Euphorica
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: GTA

nah that doesnt happen here. only in the states



this place is like a testing ground for how far people can be pushed...and we are huge pushovers and just bend over...take it with blinders on "OH CANNNNNNAAADAAA"

fucking people


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jester
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: The End of Elsewhere by Taras Grescoe

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After receiving threats and two suspicious letters Tuesday, the National Archives of Canada cancelled the screening of a controversial documentary that critiques Iran’s nuclear weapons program, a move that has organizers questioning the national library’s autonomy.


Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/ca...l#ixzz1BkHymq9h

If I was Harper I would tell Iran to get the fuck out of Canada. Lets see how Iran likes having their embassy taken over.

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