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Originally posted by Beatflux I would like to try something different with the break and I need ideas on how to go about it. I guess the easiest thing would to do a waltz kind of thing.

I don't think so.
5/4, 3/4?
I all ways use 4/4 for edm.
what about a 1/4 for a brake?

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I'm totally with ATX, 1/4 sounds mint. Very mnml.

No there are no tracks that use anything other than 4/4 that I know of anywhere except for maybe tracks by trofonic, aphex twin, etc... Its an IDM thing mainly.

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there are tracks in 3/4 but thats about it, like the dark side.
alot of dubstep also uses main elements in 3/4 like the baseline but all the drums still claims the sig is 4/4 after all.

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Originally posted by ken_lee there are tracks in 3/4 but thats about it, like the dark side. alot of dubstep also uses main elements in 3/4 like the baseline but all the drums still claims the sig is 4/4 after all.

Do you have any examples of this? I can't help but suspect that you're thinking of "triplets" instead of 3/4 time.

you might actually be right. see "The Dark Side" and correct me if im wrong, i dont really know much about shit like this (well i know a whole lot about rhytm, but not terms). Halucinogen has also experimented with this, yotutube "Me Looney Um". Also for inspiration start listen to Tool (metal).

7/4 is pretty useable in breaks, I did it in two of my earlier songs. The only real trouble is trying to go back to 4/4 afterwards, unless you want the break to have elements in it that aren't anywhere else in the track.

Could you post em?

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Originally posted by david.michael I can't help but suspect that you're thinking of "triplets" instead of 3/4 time.

Yeah, I'm sure that's the case. Also, adding enough swing to your groove can make it sound like it's in compound quadruple meter (e.g., 12/8) by making the second (i.e., swung) 8th-note that is not on the beat sound like it is on the "a" of a triplet, as in:

ONE-and-a-TWO-and-a-THREE-and-a-FOUR-and-a....

If you add enough swing to a straight 8th-note pattern, the groove will take on this triplet feel, although only the notes falling on the beat (i.e., ONE, TWO, THREE, and FOUR) and the "a"s will be sounding, whereas the "ands" will be implied, as in:

ONE-_-a-TWO-_-a-THREE-_-a-FOUR-_-a....

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then i truly wonder what 3/4 is. when i put the timesig in Reason to 3/4 this is exaclty the result i get which you describe above.
3/4 in my head means 3 16ths each beat in a 4 beat bar.
which is ompapa ompapa ompapa ompapa.

Well what he described is not 3/4 so, that's probably not the case

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Originally posted by ken_lee then i truly wonder what 3/4 is. when i put the timesig in Reason to 3/4 this is exaclty the result i get which you describe above. 3/4 in my head means 3 16ths each beat in a 4 beat bar. which is ompapa ompapa ompapa ompapa.

The primary difference is in the number of beats in each bar. 3/4 has three beats per measure and the downbeat is *usually* accented:

ONE Two Three | ONE Two Three | ONE Two Three....
(that's three measures of 3/4 time - think waltz)

12/8 time has four beats per measure, with each beat subdivided into three triplet 8th-notes each, as I described above (ONE-and-a-TWO-and-a-THREE-and-a-FOUR-and-a).

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