is dark house and progressive house the same. or different

Wouldnt they be the same genre but slightly different sounding?(Just my opinion)

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Generally, "dark house" is not considered a genre or style per se, just a descriptive term. "Progressive house", on the other hand, is a well established genre categorization, in use since 1992 or so. The term started to be common in reference to Leftfield's early '90s hits, if I recall correctly. What you would call "dark house" is generally going to be termed either "minimal", "tribal house", or "progressive house" in genre terms.

(Why yes, I AM obsessed with insufferable and useless music classification schemes if you couldn't tell!)

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Originally posted by ecksemmess Generally, "dark house" is not considered a genre or style per se, just a descriptive term. "Progressive house", on the other hand, is a well established genre categorization, in use since 1992 or so. The term started to be common in reference to Leftfield's early '90s hits, if I recall correctly. What you would call "dark house" is generally going to be termed either "minimal", "tribal house", or "progressive house" in genre terms. (Why yes, I AM obsessed with insufferable and useless music classification schemes if you couldn't tell!)

I can empathize for the OP. But yeah "Dark House" generally would be low key House music with many different sounds minimally scaled.

Prog House always sounded like Housey Trance to me.

Like, there is no heavy arpeggiation like in trance but it has the trancey pads.

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I hate how "Progressive house" is a genre, because by definition progressive means "new and innovative" , so a track that was progressive 5 years ago, shouldn't still be classified as progressive.

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Originally posted by Taipan I hate how "Progressive house" is a genre, because by definition progressive means "new and innovative" , so a track that was progressive 5 years ago, shouldn't still be classified as progressive.

But what of progressive rock? That stuff was progressive back in the 70's, and as far as I know, still gets referred to that today.

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Originally posted by Taipan I hate how "Progressive house" is a genre, because by definition progressive means "new and innovative" , so a track that was progressive 5 years ago, shouldn't still be classified as progressive.

Rule 1: Genres are not transhistorical.

Also, progressive house was only ever new and innovative for the first four or five years. After that the term ceased to have any descriptive content and just became a label for a music scene/style.

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I always thought "Progressive" meant there were extended breakdowns or solos to add tension.

Otherwise in older trance with lots of arpeggiation, you wouldn't have a breakdown at all; if anything there would be epic intros.

Lastly, I personally dislike all these genres. It was so much easier to classify it as EDM.

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With respect to the term "progressive" mate, it has a second meaning which is still and will always be applicable to the progressive rock and progressive house from all eras. The idea is that the tracks progress steadily and gradually over an extended period of time, developing musical ideas more slowly and with more complexity than "non-progressive" music. The double meaning does make the term annoying, but you have to admit that the latter meaning fits pretty well.

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Originally posted by ecksemmess With respect to the term "progressive" mate, it has a second meaning which is still and will always be applicable to the progressive rock and progressive house from all eras. The idea is that the tracks progress steadily and gradually over an extended period of time, developing musical ideas more slowly and with more complexity than "non-progressive" music. The double meaning does make the term annoying, but you have to admit that the latter meaning fits pretty well.

Yeah, back around '01-'02 when TAs were talking about Progressive being the new trance, that really fucked me up. Because I was hearing stuff labeled Progressive and Progressive House, and to me in most cases had virtually no differences.

But Progressive House always seemed about building and building like you said.

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Originally posted by ecksemmess The idea is that the tracks progress steadily and gradually over an extended period of time, developing musical ideas more slowly and with more complexity than "non-progressive" music. The double meaning does make the term annoying, but you have to admit that the latter meaning fits pretty well.

No it's not. That's a post-rationalist crock of shit.

'Progressive House' is simply a rehashed term in music journalism (and the music industry) coming from 'progressive' as used in 'progressive rock', meant as a loose analogy for what 'progressive rock' meant to 'rock'.