"The gun did not kill anyone. The idiot pulling the trigger did. If we did not have guns, people would find other ways of doing it. Drunk drivers kill thousands of people every year. You don't see them banning alcohol or automobiles."

why would the guy be shooting at kids?

or was the shooter an elementary kid that had been bullied, who brought his dad's gun to school to settle scores?? now that would be ridic

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Originally posted by OrangestO "The gun did not kill anyone. The idiot pulling the trigger did. If we did not have guns, people would find other ways of doing it. Drunk drivers kill thousands of people every year. You don't see them banning alcohol or automobiles."

18 Kindergarten kids. 8 Staff and the gunman.

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Originally posted by AnotherWay83 why would the guy be shooting at kids? or was the shooter an elementary kid that had been bullied, who brought his dad's gun to school to settle scores?? now that would be ridic

An adult dressed in BTUs

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I am from Newtown, CT. I spent almost half my life in this town.

"safest place in America" wow.

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Originally posted by Desiderata An adult dressed in BTUs

BDU, Battle Dress Uniform

Not British Thermal Unit...

Shitty deal none-the-less.

This country will never learn.

Two (nationally covered) shootings in one week.

A mall and an elementary school. It can't get much worse than that.

Hooray lobbyists!

There's deeper rooted issues in this country leading to these results, but can anyone tell me how allowing guns to be readily available for anyone is a step in the right direction?

To avoid tyranny?

I just can't believe after all of the massacres that continue to occur people still have the nerve to defend the Second Amendment in 2012.

Times change.

It's time Obama did more than just talk about abridging this part of the constitution.

Pistols and semi-automatic assault rifles should be illegal. Period. There is no use for either whatsoever.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

Exactly. He fucking tip-toed around the issue because he was up for re-election. Now it's time for a serious discussion on what the government is going to do to ensure the internal safety of its population, rather than more hand-wringing and condolences.

Being well-armed to combat tyranny doesn't mean shit when those same well armed are tyrannizing you.

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Gun control is an issue you will not win on. Its already out of the bottle. It'd be nice if we never got to this point in terms of gun ownership, but you can not go back in time.

There are 8 guns from every 10 people in the US, and thats just ones that are accounted for.

People are willing to kill to keep them, and they are armed obviously, so taking away existing guns is something you can not do with out a shit load of bloodshed and violence.

I hate to be a defeatist, but we are fucked here.

Let's make a Kickstarter for it.

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