Well listen Ive only been doin this for about 4 yrs and when I started Oakenfold was and amzing dj. New tunes/Great Set etc. and then Wham complete bullshit 1 and a half sets trainwrecking doing more dancing then mixing. Now Tiesto has gone from Slamming energetic sets to plain thinking he is the best thing since sliced bread. Is this what happens when people start saying your the number one dj in the world.

Also I give Oakie a SHIT load of credit he is on a comeback hoepfully Tiesto will get out of this funk.

Not again!.... dude if you read this forum everyday you'll see that:
1. About 90% of TAs have loved his latest sets (GK B-Day, NEC Gatecrasher, Miami Global Broadcast, and Radio 1 from last Sat. etc.)

2. These new sets have all been mad energetic (Gatecrasher) or progressive-to-uplifting in an interesting way (Global Broadcast from 2 weekends ago, Radio 1 from last weekend).

3. He got NEW records, and great ones too.

4. His new remixes have all been more than decent and he is even spinning them (Tears from the Moon, Roc Project-Never).

5. If you find any trainwrecks give me the solid evidence in livesets, the exact time they happened. I bet I could find as many or more wrecks in Armin or other superstar sets. Tiesto has never been a technically virtuoso beatmatching mixer, but DJing is so much more than this. Tiesto's gift has always been his magical track placement and creativity in blending tunes together. To this day, he's still the best doing this.

I never ever really liked Oakey much but I've been loyal to Tijs for around 5 years and imo he keeps getting better, although more complex, with time.

Tiesto did what many consider as being the remix of the year-Southern Sun.

Tiesto did what many consider to be the liveset of the year- 02 02 02 Dutch Dimension while Impulz also gets many mentions.

Tiesto is here to stay and if you don't like it then don't tune in

Amen

I don't know about trainwrecks... but I thought Tiesto was going down the tubes when In My Memory came out. I was really peeved. I just hope I starts making more tracks I dig, and no more like Close To You.

I don't know how to classify oakey's style, I haven't heard a liveset from him in forever, so I'm not in a good position to judge that.

I think its healthy for every dj to explore and experiment with genre and new styles. If they didn't, I would assume that artistically they are dead and just some guy spinning tunes on a turntable. That's my opinion anyway.

Because we all have different tastes it doesn't mean that the dj's experiment will be a big hit. I mean, obviously a lot of stuff Oakey's done has been a bust with a lot of people.

For instance, I like some of the techno-ish that Tiesto has been putting into his sets. Its a nice in-between for the buildups of the trance tunes he plays.

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oakie took the direction so that he can sell more records.

he does alot of commercial soundtracks, iex signs, swordfish. its about money, and you can't alway duplicate the same success you begin with, although i think he's trying.

Tiesto, has just been in a dry spell, its not easy pleasing most hardcore trance fan, we're so spoiled. But he's young, so have faith mate.

Oh, this discussion again.

I can't really agree that Oakey has gone after the big buck, sure he
is doing soundtracks for some movies but who wouldn't ?
Would you be the first in history to say "No thank you, I wanna keep it underground!" ?
Phat chance.

Can't say that his taste is too commercial either, Bunkka (which I did not like)
is not what public likes and his sets theese days contain alot more
house (which I DO like) then the 1999-trance.
Oakey has changed, evolved and passed on. So has Tiësto and all other
major DJs becuase you has to, you will always find new genres that interest
you and new songs that sounds cool, its just that some DJs branch
off in a way that you don't like. But to scream "COMMERCIAL DJ!" just
because he plays house is for me, not understandable.

But I must agree, Ive heard some trainwrecking in both Oakey and
Tiësto's sets lately and If I were to count only thoose, damn how much
they would suck. But look on the whole picture, Oakenfold has been
playing since the 1980s, start counting the number of gigs.
The number of trainwrecks will go up but the number of smoooooth
transitions will rise even more.

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here's a fuckin tip, search the past 2 months for the INNUMMERABLE THREADS OF THE SAME CONTENT and reply to one of them

k? now good

in any case, you're way out of touch with any recent sets, because they've been quite good.

try not to be a sheep, and follow the flock son.

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Oakenfold is anything but a sell out. I don't really like what he's doing at the moment but if anything Oakenfold is always moving away from the mainstream. It'd be pretty easy for him to keep banging out the same old trance but you have to respect him for trying something different, unlike a lot of DJ's who have been around just as long as him and havn't changed their sound at all!

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here's a fuckin tip, search the past 2 months for the INNUMMERABLE THREADS OF THE SAME CONTENT and reply to one of them

rofl

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I think we need the hello and welcome to last week picture in here.

But, i think for a while he was starting to go down that road i mean even considering that elvis mix but now, his recent sets have been great. Really good, appealling to a lot of people and generally getting back on track. Good for him I say.

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Originally posted by atxhorn he does alot of commercial soundtracks, iex signs, swordfish. its about money, and you can't alway duplicate the same success you begin with, although i think he's trying.

So then you're saying Paul van Dyk is a money hungry sell-out also.
And any artist that remixed Ayu is a sell-out. That would make a lot of big names sell-outs.