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Cyrus King
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Bowling for Columbine

I just came back from watching this indescribable documentary.. and i have to say....Micheal Moore did a great job at telling what the American population should know about their nation, regarding gun control and the media.

Truly a work of art.
I espescially loved how he, as an American, depicted the atrocities the US government executed this past century.

As a film major and filmmaker.. i give this 11/10.

What are your comments about this film?


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JohnSmith
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i want to see it!


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yep, it says nothing new, but its a quite good resume and an introduction to "american wrong-doings 101"

get the divx if you can't catch the movie at theatres (it was only at two independant theatres in Montreal)... I can't imagine in some smaller cities.


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I downloaded it a few weeks ago and I loved it. It really gave me a completely different view on America. Every single American should be forced to watch this imo, it would open the eyes of a lot of those pro-war Americans. Definately the best documentary I've ever seen.

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Az
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hehe bowling is clearly the root of all evil

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Verona^My
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I especially liked how he went into the "fear" issue, he's damn right about how the media hypes up fear of everything in this country. At least we do have the murder rate to be afraid of though.
But the thing that struck me the hardest on the fear issue, was the Y2K bug, I remember all freakin year, every newspaper, magazine was going on about how everything was going to shut down because of a couple of digits were off in some old programs. Well guess what, nothing happened, absolutely nothing.

Marlyn Manson had the most intelligent comments in the movie IMO, & the movie also had some insights on Canada. I found it odd, cause I visited Canada a few times (Toronto, some other cities as well), and the people seemed a lot more relaxed and at ease, less afraid of everything around them. To find out that they dont lock their doors is interesting.

Of course there's the ugly side of American history displayed in the movie, but some of the other stuff I found truly insightful. Maybe it isn't the guns after all. (7 million guns are in Canada)

The Columbine footage, some of which I haven't seen in the news, was downright spooky. I would've like to see him get a little more into how bullying in school drives students to Columbine style violence, cause it sure aint Marlyn Manson.. Bullying is getting to be a bigger issue in America, since it's getting a lot worse, I think it should be outlawed myself.


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JM
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i just watched this, and was quite shocked in a way...

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I especially liked how he went into the "fear" issue, he's damn right about how the media hypes up fear of everything in this country.


yeah. my roomate is planning on getting a full ABC suit. I'm sitting here listening to him talking about "terrorism" him protecting himself with his guns from the terrorists, and all the shit. fuck, he must REALLY be scared!


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But the thing that struck me the hardest on the fear issue, was the Y2K bug, I remember all freakin year, every newspaper, magazine was going on about how everything was going to shut down because of a couple of digits were off in some old programs. Well guess what, nothing happened, absolutely nothing.


aaaah yes i remember that. i was definitely waiting at the strike of midnight, i wasnt scared, just i guess anticipating to see if maybe the lights would go out or something

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Maybe it isn't the guns after all. (7 million guns are in Canada)


interesting heh? what is it? the fear? the fear that makes people not think and act in defense? sad....

definitely puts a spin on some of my thoughts and views about things - not gun ownership per se, but the whole media, entertainment..so forth.

>JM<

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my goodness not another thread regarding this film.... oh well.....it was bloody genious


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The film was fucking great.
You guys should all check out Barry Glasner's book "The Culture of Fear"
Micheal More interviews glassner in the movie.

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its NOT a documentary...any 'film student' should know that.



i thot the film was well made. its popular as shit over here in Sweden. my main concern is that people are taking it for face value without question. it makes quite a few good points. but it is heavily biased and unfair to many people invloved.

now-- that being said, im not defending Heston, the NRA, etc. i did like the bit about fear tactics in the media, that is a resounding problem in the US, and elsewhere because our media is so pervasive.

like i said tho, without living in the US, i dont think that you can truly judge it properly. many people in US WILL NOT see it, or WONT be able to judge it either. it pervades the myth that everyone in the US are stupid, crazy and violent- and that only helps those that know little about the size, scope and culture of the US to stereotype|


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Originally posted by JM

aaaah yes i remember that. i was definitely waiting at the strike of midnight, i wasnt scared, just i guess anticipating to see if maybe the lights would go out or something

>JM<


I was too, they hyped up the Y2K bug to all hell, people were stocking supplies for what seemed like impending doom. New Years Eve comes, and the next day, nothing happens. Amazing isn't it.

Kinda makes me think about this whole chemical attack scare going on now.


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Cyrus King
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Originally posted by biznology
its NOT a documentary...any 'film student' should know that.



It certainly is a documentary as it "DOCUMENTS" his travel and experience. And just so you know, it was nominated recently for an oscar for "best DOCUMENTARY"


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