After I match the BPM of the 1st record, I usually stop the 2nd record and let it go until I match beats. That's pretty much how I cue the 2nd record (It's inconsistent though, sometimes It's too late to bring in the cued up record because of this) Any advise for me?

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This is one method that works very well, and incorporates phrasing into your mixing, which is very essential.

1. Get cued track matched with live one
2. Move needle on cued track to where you want to bring it in (for starting it is easier to jsut use the first beat in the track, or if it starts with weird stuff, just wait until the first kick of a 32 or 64 beat sequence.
3. Find that beat in phones by moving the record (yes, with your hand) over the beat (should sound like "whump, pmuwh (when you bring it back over it is essentially backwards)
4. Scratch the cued kick drum in time with the live songs kick drum
5. When you get to a sequence, let go of the 'scratching' beat you have lined up, instead of bringing it back (sometimes it might need a bit of a push when you let it go)
6. If you had the records matched before you did all this, it should be pretty on, nudge here and there.....

I think that makes sense.

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Thanks for the advise DJ Dean!!! But one question though, let's say I am ready to drop in the cued song and I miss the entry at the 32 or 64 beat sequence of the 1st song. What do you do to recover?

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well, if you miss it by half a beat, or even a whole beat, it's not too bad you can push it ahead and line it back up. any more than that, and you are screwed. i've lined it back up when it's 2 and a half beats behind before, but this is hard to do, and inconsistent.

how could you ever dro pit twoo and a half beats behind you say? well sometimes when scratching over the beat, the needle skips one groove back, and you have to wait for it to ALL the way around again, ARRRGHGH!! i hate that.

so, anyway, i hope i answered your question. if you missed by any more than 4 beats though, don't even try, just wait for another 32 or 64 beat phrase to begin if you have time. Sometimes though, there is only that ONE spot, so get good at nailing it!

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Thanks for your words JohnSmith, but I have another question. Let's say you are playing at a club and you missed your cue. Do you guys wait for the next 32 or 64 beat sequence??? What do you guys do in that kind of situation?

Steve

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Run out of the club!

It's better to wait the 32 beats for better alignment, but there's no set in stone rule about it. Sometimes if you start it after 16 you can get some cool effects going like cymbal crashes 4 beats apart. Just don't get too hard on yourself, I know how frustrating it all is at first but there will come a day when it will just click. I learned how to do it on my own pretty much and it came together with practice.

Seriously though, just if that ever happens, I just try to do my best on bring the next track in as smooth as possible in the next 32 or 64 beat. But if my cue record is behind a couple of beats, then I just push the record ahead to catch up with the live one as JohnSmith said. Remember, your pushing the record along not throwing it forward. Also you can increase the pitch to the maxium and wait til the cue record is in line with the live one, but it will take a little longer.

I totally agree with jonnycarcinogen! It maybe seem hard to do because your worrying about so many things that can go wrong. All you can do is just practice hard and do your best. Don't half ass it either or else your not going anywhere.

THis is a question i've wanted to ask, now I know almost every top dj, is always lookin for the first bar, of the outgoing track, must be frustrating, if you even missed it by one bar, yet its still beat matched!

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if you fuck up and misses the spot, hurry on, and que up the point that is 16 beats(bar) ahead of your original que point.. start it 16 beats after you originally was supposed to...

i dont know if this makes any sense, but it worxz0r=

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Originally posted by dj_alfi if you fuck up and misses the spot, hurry on, and que up the point that is 16 beats(bar) ahead of your original que point.. start it 16 beats after you originally was supposed to... i dont know if this makes any sense, but it worxz0r=

Well.. I think 16 is not enough, I mostly wait 64 beats when I miss.. Sometimes 32 if the record is near its end (because I like longer mixes).. But never 16.

If it works for you though, then don't change This is just my method.

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