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Originally posted by Christopher B I saw on the news last night that yesterday there were Pro-war rallies held throughout the United States. I was shocked and deeply saddened upon realizing that such large masses of my own people are are so bloodthirsty and ignorant. Is it really true that 60% of the US population is Pro-War? Are these rallies going to continue? I thought being misrepresented was bad, but now it seems that the government has successfully brainwashed the masses.

I personally would err on the side of the hawks as I feel it is simply to dangerous to leave Saddam free to develop WMD's (Colin Powell's evidence that they can do such, in at least limited capabilites, while inspections are operating in the country). However, several of these wackos simply shout the same jingoistic, anti-Islam tripe and are oftentimes even more grossly uninformed than the nuttiest in the anti-war camp. For example, some 42% of people in America believe Iraq was involved in 9/11 when no such evidence exists. I wonder if those numbers would be different (60% being pro-war) if no one believed Iraq was uncomplicit in 9/11.

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Originally posted by Christopher B I saw on the news last night that yesterday there were Pro-war rallies held throughout the United States. I was shocked and deeply saddened upon realizing that such large masses of my own people are are so bloodthirsty and ignorant. Is it really true that 60% of the US population is Pro-War? Are these rallies going to continue? I thought being misrepresented was bad, but now it seems that the government has successfully brainwashed the masses.

Ok. That is not true at ALL ! ! ! 60% of the PEOPLE are not PRO-WAR!! .. Trust me. 1000 people dont mean anything. The biggest rallie had 3000 people, and that is NOT alot ! ! ! for been the only rallie, which was held on the United States, in which the majority were Veterans or some sort of that kind. THey were all OLD people also.. mostly. And no, not 60% ! ! ! You forgot about all the people around the US that went ANTI-WAR ? ? If it was 60%, there wouldn't have been such numbers. Also, the polls shows that people would go to war more with a UN resolution, but not the US itself.

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Originally posted by LiquidX Ok. That is not true at ALL ! ! ! 60% of the PEOPLE are not PRO-WAR!! .. Trust me. 1000 people dont mean anything. The biggest rallie had 3000 people, and that is NOT alot ! ! ! for been the only rallie, which was held on the United States, in which the majority were Veterans or some sort of that kind. THey were all OLD people also.. mostly. And no, not 60% ! ! ! You forgot about all the people around the US that went ANTI-WAR ? ? If it was 60%, there wouldn't have been such numbers. Also, the polls shows that people would go to war more with a UN resolution, but not the US itself.

Yeah, I would have been quite surprised if all those polls (administered by the Bush camp, no less) were for real. Sorry if I was misinformed, that's just what I heard. It makes me feel better knowing that we all ahven't lost it yet.

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Yeah, I would have been quite surprised if all those polls (administered by the Bush camp, no less) were for real.

So true.

I read an article (sorry, cannot source it) not long ago which had statistics from all around the world on how much support this war has. To my suprise Australia was at the top of this list as the most pro-war.

It makes me sick that such lies can be published when i am still to meet ANYONE who is in favour of this war, let alone 70% percent of the population.

You wonder how these people can go to sleep at night after publishing such lies.

Dupz
money drives a lot of ppl to do strange and sad things

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Originally posted by Dupz So true. I read an article (sorry, cannot source it) not long ago which had statistics from all around the world on how much support this war has. To my suprise Australia was at the top of this list as the most pro-war. It makes me sick that such lies can be published when i am still to meet ANYONE who is in favour of this war, let alone 70% percent of the population. You wonder how these people can go to sleep at night after publishing such lies.

Well keep in mind we all hang out and keep in like crowds. Maybe nobody you've met in your age bracket is pro-war but I'm sure that there may be a lot of people who think differentely in other demographics.

BTW on a side note, why is everybody calling it pro-war. I'm most certainly not pro-war. I'm pro-disarmament. Just because I think that if diplomacy fails, force should be used as the last resort that doesn't mean I'm necessarily pro-war.

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Originally posted by occrider BTW on a side note, why is everybody calling it pro-war. I'm most certainly not pro-war. I'm pro-disarmament. Just because I think that if diplomacy fails, force should be used as the last resort that doesn't mean I'm necessarily pro-war.

And thats what French, Russia and China are opging for. Using war as the last option.

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I would call it pro-disarmament, but unfortunately these people who are involved are self titling them "Pro-War" rallies

Either way, I think it's pretty sad.

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Originally posted by LiquidX And thats what French, Russia and China are opging for. Using war as the last option.

I think a lot of disagreement revolves around when it's time for that last resort. To me, it seems that that time will come never for France, Russia, and China and a little too soon for the US. I wish there was a happy medium between the two.

I just read an article stating that the US has been buying more and more petroleum from Iraq on the last couple of weeks/months. Not directly, but through intermediums, like you know.. someone buys off from Iraq, and US buys of from that one person that bought from Iraq. This actually gives a whole turn-out to the statement I had made before on anotehr thread saying that US does not buy from Iraq. BUt now I know that IT does indeed buy from Iraq.. not direcly, but through other sources. Mmmmmm wierd for those that SAY US is not attacking for OIL ?!?! wierd wierd change Id say...

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hmmm....maybe they were just showing their support for the troops. i mean the war is gonna happen, it's happening, and the troops, whether they want to or not have commited to going to war if that's what it comes down to. may we at the least give them support, cheer for them, and wish them luck, if nothing else?

>JM<