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_rdent
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: USA
Time Travel

A friend of mine sent me this rather interesting article about time travel. hehe

EDIT: i guess i can explicitly paste the link, cuz the link color above is about the same color as the background. http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html


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djSlain
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Registered: May 2001
Location: San Diego CA

let me think................................no i don't beleive..........no wait, yes..........time travel?...88 miles per hour........flux capasitor......2.1 jigawatts....carry the 2... ok ok, i made up my mind......
this guy is from the future


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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
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Well, it would be nice of you if you'd post it or something...


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TranceGiant
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: (Strudel)-City that never sleeps

Hehe, indeed very interesting, how long hast this story been around?

quote:
NEW YORK -- Federal investigators have arrested an enigmatic Wall Street wiz on insider-trading charges -- and incredibly, he claims to be a time-traveler from the year 2256!

Sources at the Security and Exchange Commission confirm that 44-year-old Andrew Carlssin offered the bizarre explanation for his uncanny success in the stock market after being led off in handcuffs on January 28.

"We don't believe this guy's story -- he's either a lunatic or a pathological liar," says an SEC insider.

"But the fact is, with an initial investment of only $800, in two weeks' time he had a portfolio valued at over $350 million. Every trade he made capitalized on unexpected business developments, which simply can't be pure luck.

"The only way he could pull it off is with illegal inside information. He's going to sit in a jail cell on Rikers Island until he agrees to give up his sources."

The past year of nose-diving stock prices has left most investors crying in their beer. So when Carlssin made a flurry of 126 high-risk trades and came out the winner every time, it raised the eyebrows of Wall Street watchdogs.

"If a company's stock rose due to a merger or technological breakthrough that was supposed to be secret, Mr. Carlssin somehow knew about it in advance," says the SEC source close to the hush-hush, ongoing investigation.

When investigators hauled Carlssin in for questioning, they got more than they bargained for: A mind-boggling four-hour confession.

Carlssin declared that he had traveled back in time from over 200 years in the future, when it is common knowledge that our era experienced one of the worst stock plunges in history. Yet anyone armed with knowledge of the handful of stocks destined to go through the roof could make a fortune.

"It was just too tempting to resist," Carlssin allegedly said in his videotaped confession. "I had planned to make it look natural, you know, lose a little here and there so it doesn't look too perfect. But I just got caught in the moment."

In a bid for leniency, Carlssin has reportedly offered to divulge "historical facts" such as the whereabouts of Osama Bin Laden and a cure for AIDS.

All he wants is to be allowed to return to the future in his "time craft."

However, he refuses to reveal the location of the machine or discuss how it works, supposedly out of fear the technology could "fall into the wrong hands."

Officials are quite confident the "time-traveler's" claims are bogus. Yet the SEC source admits, "No one can find any record of any Andrew Carlssin existing anywhere before December 2002."

Weekly World News will continue to follow this story as it unfolds. Keep watching for further developments.


Here's the part I don't get

"Carlssin declared that he had traveled back in time from over 200 years in the future, when it is common knowledge that our era experienced one of the worst stock plunges in history. Yet anyone armed with knowledge of the handful of stocks destined to go through the roof could make a fortune.
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However at the beginning of the article it says that he made all those fortunes within two weeks. Now I donno about history-writing in 2256 but it seems somewhat unbelievable that they documented the developments of so many stocks that exactely..over such a short, specific amount of time..200 years ago.


Also, why make it complicated Mr. Future? If i had a time machine I simply would have travelled back to yesterday and "guess" the right lottery numbers, repeat so..if i become suspicious just travel back another 2, 3 weeks etc. But stock exchange? 200 years ago? This has nothing to do with the current crisis! If i know the precise development of stocks i can gain much money even in a relatively safe and prosperous era. what the hell...


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BTG
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
Also, why make it complicated Mr. Future? If i had a time machine I simply would have travelled back to yesterday and "guess" the right lottery numbers, repeat so..if i become suspicious just travel back another 2, 3 weeks etc. But stock exchange? 200 years ago? This has nothing to do with the current crisis! If i know the precise development of stocks i can gain much money even in a relatively safe and prosperous era. what the hell...


its from yahoo, none of it is true.

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TranceGiant
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Registered: Jun 2001
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yeah i just read that it was already confirmed to be bullshit. Another one of thos fucking internet myths

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AN ALLEGED Wall Street insider dealer, arrested after making a fortune from suspiciously timed purchases, has come up with the weirdest excuse yet. Andrew Carlssin, 44, told the Securities and Exchange Commission that he was a time traveller from the year 2256, taking advantage of our well-documented market collapse. The SEC is, understandably, unwilling to believe him. “He’s either a lunatic or a pathological liar,” said an insider there. Such is the story, apparently culled from a number of news websites, doing the rounds of the City. Alas, it is merely one of the better internet myths. The SEC has never heard of Carlssin, and several “facts” are plainly untrue.


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Yes, it was always bullshit. Simply an exaggeration.

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Az
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I saw this on the news earlier as well

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nrjizer
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Registered: Jan 2001
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did you know that every time you fly on a commercial jetliner, you travel through time (its true, no bullshit)


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bassaholix
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Registered: Sep 2001
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Originally posted by nrjizer
did you know that every time you fly on a commercial jetliner, you travel through time (its true, no bullshit)


WTF? really... pls explain!!! otherwise ur just babbling!

from the article...
"The only way he could pull it off is with illegal inside information. He's going to sit in a jail cell on Rikers Island until he agrees to give up his sources."

What if he doesn't? then what have they proved? they haven't proved squat.. he could be either telling the truth or he can realyl be just a nut...

This guy seriously as some interesting shit like the his space craft.. but tell me then, why make this shit up, seriously otherwise he's been watching way too much star wars reruns...lol

Hmm interesting... or maybe he just copied the idea of the Back to the Future dood and that book on horse racing...???


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Yes time-travel to the past is possible, the tools you would need to make a time machine that could travel into the past, are quite similar to those you would need to travel to the future. The main thing is you would need to be able to travel at the speed of light. However unlike traveling into the future, rather then moving in a straight line, you would need to be rotating at the speed of light. You would need a "vessel" about the size of a carousel rotating and when it hit the speed of light, the gravity would be strong enough that it would actually bend time enough to make it reverse. Read up on Einstein's special and general reletivity for more info, also I recommend reading Steven Hawking's A Brief History or Time if you are interested.but in any case if all of you abide by the laws of physics, then most probably time travel does exist because it is clearly defined in Einstiens general reletivity (or maybe it was in special reletivity, can't remember) I urge you all to read A Brief History or time, it's clear enough so anyone can understad it


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zarathustra
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quote:
Originally posted by bassaholix
WTF? really... pls explain!!! otherwise ur just babbling!



It's true it's true... The closer an object's velocity is to that of light, the slower time passes for that object and hence, it travels into the future. This is easier to illustrate with the follwing example made famous by Einstein. Say you have twin brothers. One of them decides to board a super-fast spacecraft. He travels near the speed of light and takes a tour of the solar-system. Although maybe 1 week has passed for him, several years would have passed on Earth and upon his return to the planet, his brother will be older than he is and he will effectively be in the future (for him).

This has been proven too. I don't know the exact details of the experiment but it was something like this:
Two atomic clocks (precise to tiny fractions of seconds) were syncronized. One was put in a supersonic jet while the other stayed on the ground. The jet went for a run and then came back. The clock on the jet was slightly behind the clock which had remained (relatively) stationary. And so the real time travellers are astronauts who, by virtue of the (relatively) extraordinary speeds at which they travel while in orbit, will have travelled a few seconds into the future by the time they return from their missions. Fascinating stuff.

As for time travel into the past, I always thought one would have to travel faster than light which is impossible as far as we know.

Another point that I find interesting has to do with black holes. It is impossible to die IN a black hole. This is because as you approach the "hole," gravity becomes so strong that it slows down time until time will eventually stop. Therefore, if one were to be sucked into a black hole and survive the intense radiation surrounding it, time would slow down so much that you would never reach the "hole". Weird.


How to build a time machine:

If you possess some sort of technology that enables you to manipulate wormholes, put one near a high gravity body such as a neutron star or a black hole and put the other one somewhere else. Time will pass more slowly at the wormhole's exit in this case so all you have to do is hop in and there you go, time travel.

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