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Originally posted by Omegasox I can guarantee that is not even close to all muscle. You even said yourself your diet is poor, why would you think it's all muscle?

how can you guarantee it's not all muscle it's possible.

i gained 15lbs in 3 and a half months, all muscle, i know this cos i got a body fat test at the begininning 12.5% and one at the end 12%

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pics or stfu

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Originally posted by Orbax pics or stfu

ye was just waiting for that.... i sadly only got pics from 2 months in and digi cam is refusing to work at the mo, will post my now 1s as soon as possible, but there's only a 10lb difference between those pics and where i am at the moment. so i'll stfu for the time being

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hehe ok.

I want to see other people so I can ask what they do for specific parts.

It isn't as bad as i made out.

I just eat A LOT, and that includes some junk food occasionly (chocolate bars etc), but mostly i eat sandwiches, meat, lots of salad, bread etc.

And i exercise 6 days a week, so how can you "guarantee" that its not muscle?

I say settle it with a picture posting war.

i'm serious...you get someone to send me their old camera...i'll take you some pics...

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Originally posted by Vigilante It isn't as bad as i made out. I just eat A LOT, and that includes some junk food occasionly (chocolate bars etc), but mostly i eat sandwiches, meat, lots of salad, bread etc. And i exercise 6 days a week, so how can you "guarantee" that its not muscle?

because i know how the body works. even if its half muscle...that would be good results. if you are eating that much that chances are you also put on fat...i didn't say that was a bad thing, but its not 100%...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller because i know how the body works. even if its half muscle...that would be good results. if you are eating that much that chances are you also put on fat...i didn't say that was a bad thing, but its not 100%...

what's your stats then? can you post pics to back up all this knowledge you have?

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Originally posted by Floorfiller well its not that so much. you can definitely do that much stuff if you're really on with diet and have the time to dedicate towards it. the part i don't like is that Radagast doesn't seem to have any ideas of his own. the best part about lifting weights is taking knowledge and applying it to your situation...

So it's straight out of it . I'm going to take it and modify it to my own preferences when i'm able to work out again. I'm assuming other people are smart enough to do this also if they want to use it. People should know that any program I or anyone here puts up isn't for everyone, whether it's from a book written by a professional bodybuilder or something some guy on the internet with 15 inch biceps came up with. Each of their workouts will work for themselves. Each of their workouts will not work for everyone. And i'm willing to bet that at least the professional bodybuilders workout who has made a living doing it for over 10 years (claiming no less than 8 Mr. Olympia titles) and with four times as much experience with non-competition exercise would be at least a little more helpful than something else.

I thought I got most of this through in the note at the end, which was written entirely by me.

EDIT: Changes i'm going to make right off the bat just by looking at the program: Adding posterior delt excersise, changing the back program a little, adding a heavy day now and again, adding cardio where I feel comfortable, probably a lot more little things once I get a chance to think about it more and try it out.

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Last edited by Radagast on May-19-2004 at 08:49

i have a simple question.

i can't afford gym etc at the moment so i brought some push up bars/stands and use them with my feet raised of the ground. i've worked out that if i use them really far apart so my hands are really far apart, it's quite good for my pecs and i've worked out if u have them really close it focuses more on my biceps/arms

Normally, i use the bars so they are in line with my shoulders, what difference would it make if I use them so my hands are higher above my shoulders and also if i was to use them lower down so my hands are closer to my stomach.

Any suggestions? Will it work slightly different areas?

Many thanks

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Originally posted by Floorfiller traditionally this is what each encompasses... Tone: lots of reps little weight Strength: lots of weight little reps

True. But as soon as I started working out I thought that was bullshit. Evertime I worked out, my main goal was to get my muscle group EXTREMELY pumped, and of course, work it to absolout failure *I can't emphasise those two points enough.* It's something you just feel I guess. Whenever I worked with heavy weights and low repititions, I wasn't getting that *pumped* feeling, and injured my forearms/tendons with routines incorporating tremendous weights//low reps ie.

A 55kg barbell bicep curl with: 3 reps/4 sets.

OR

105kg benchpress with 3 reps/4 sets.


I built muscle much quicker with a quick high rep workout(to get the muscle group tired) IE. for one bicep: 30-40 reps @ 10kg taken VERY SLOWLY so you can feel your muscle being pumped, and then just repeat it with the same weight. As you do more sets your reps will come down because your muscles get fucking SORE.


Anyway, my stats are 6"0, 200pounds.