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Originally posted by CunningLinguist Look at the situation through their eyes...when everyone is "rolling" at the flavor-of-the-month trance show are the bars packed w/ clients yearning for a long-island?

Alcohol will never die. Any serious drinker knows that.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

It wasn’t my intention to malign alcohol...just that facts are facts. People are so adamantly obsessed w/ drug use when alcohol abuse (which last time I checked was legal) runs rampant and KILLS far more people and is many times more hurtful to the economic process.


If you basic argument is that I shouldnt compare drugs to alcohol, then I will willingly be silent. For you have provided me w/ such an indepth analysis

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Originally posted by beats and beeps Amount of people who do ecstasy |---| Amount of people who drink |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Stop comparing alchohol to illegal drugs.

partially because...E is not as readily available to popular society, and is not as socially accepted as alcohol. So people are less prone to trying it.

If you think about it, E is produced under uncontrolled conditions, there is no guarantee about what is inside each pill. And despite this, around 2 million per week are consumed in the UK, and there are still very very few recorded seriously bad side effects of them (if there is, word gets round very quickly).

If E was produced under the strict conditions that alcoholic drinks are produced, with strict guidelines as to how much you should have, and warnings about all it's side effects (drinking water etc) there would probably be even feweer casualties from it.

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I've always wondered why there seem to be more 'pro' ppl on this topic in the uk, and more 'con' ppl in the US...

Does the US have better anti-drug campaigns?

Could us UK ppl just not give a screw about such campaigns and prefer to make our own decisions?

Could it be that its like this because the clubber-to-square-mile ratio is considerably higher in the UK?

eh, I dont really care, its more prevailent over here, thus meaning more competition, ergo, better prices for me

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well ... it beats me why drugs are such a devil in the eyes of society ... really i dont understand it .... and if ATM substances were legalised and equated in status with alcohol ... im sure there woould be even less deaths and complications ... XTC has the advantage of taking u into depression and ppl begin to think about it ... the result is moderate use with most users ...

besides that - xtc was and is again used in medical purposes ... when was alcohol ever used in that purpose ????

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Originally posted by Stasha well ... it beats me why drugs are such a devil in the eyes of society ... really i dont understand it .... and if ATM substances were legalised and equated in status with alcohol ... im sure there woould be even less deaths and complications ... XTC has the advantage of taking u into depression and ppl begin to think about it ... the result is moderate use with most users ... besides that - xtc was and is again used in medical purposes ... when was alcohol ever used in that purpose ????

sterilising wounds?

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Originally posted by kr00t0n I've always wondered why there seem to be more 'pro' ppl on this topic in the uk, and more 'con' ppl in the US... Does the US have better anti-drug campaigns? Could us UK ppl just not give a screw about such campaigns and prefer to make our own decisions? Could it be that its like this because the clubber-to-square-mile ratio is considerably higher in the UK? eh, I dont really care, its more prevailent over here, thus meaning more competition, ergo, better prices for me

I cant really speak for all americans but I can tell you that me and my circle of friends are not swayed by anti-drug campaigns. Rather my friends tend to look at current users, past users, and whather info is available.


yea, we don't use it. but ya know, its just our choice, just like its ur choice so rock on.


I think I just am jaded on the whole pill thing. I have one buddy addicted to them along with other things and it just makes me...i dunno, disgusted at pill takers. but thats just me, im not gonna try ot rain in on anyones parade.

Drugs are far better than alcochol is. they are the same thing tho.
but its not just edm fans who use drugs. if you think of it ALL KINDS OF MUSIC ARE CONNECTED WITH DRUGS even the ancients used them as part of their religion or which was always connected with music somehow. you think your mom qand dad never tried marijuana or lsd? think again. drugs are not the problem. the problem is the way they are used. if politics didnt have the head in the ass, then things would prob be better.

thing is about government campaigns, once you hear one bit of mis information from them, you're sceptical about anything else they have to say.

Also government campaigns aren't run for the good of society, they are run to get votes.

In the end you tend to value your own experience, much more than any 'official' sources - especially when official sources are blatantly biased.

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Originally posted by dj jasonF ALL KINDS OF MUSIC ARE CONNECTED WITH DRUGS

Not true.

and in regards to the whole drinking thing. If everyone who drank, started taking ecstasy everytime they would usually take a drink i assure you there would be more deaths. If everyone who smokes started taking a pill everytime they would normally light up a cig again there would be more ecstasy related deaths than there would be baccy related deaths. It simply isnt sensible to be comparing the two. (even though im doing so right now)

i dont wanna waste my time but... it is true one way or an other