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Originally posted by bagguley Then I find several posts of people that I know we haven't sent the track to listing in their "downloadable mix"...

This is what really annoys me.

I see people having slots on reputable internet radio stations and it's so blatant that they are playing illegal mp3's.

Pathetic

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Originally posted by Sigmun This is what really annoys me. I see people having slots on reputable internet radio stations and it's so blatant that they are playing illegal mp3's. Pathetic

Who would you say did that then?


You have to remember a lot of DJ's know producers and get sent the tracks legally. Although the ones that do this by the illeagal method should be named and shamed i definately agree.

I only ever do mixes on good old fashioned 12"

If major record labels can't combat this form of music sharing, which has cost MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of dollars to be lost in the music industry, then a tiny little recording company has about a snowball's chance in hell of doing anything about it...

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Its difficult, if I was in Andy's position now, I'd be livid...especially asking questions to the artists and to the djs on his list.

People aquiring these mp3s need to show a little discretion or at least a little compassion to the label and artist....sure, download the track, have a listen...but dont use it in a mix, plaster it over the net/send it out when you have NO right to even have the track at all.

Thats a shit attitude.

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Originally posted by XaNaX In my experience, the people who download MP3s do NOT buy music at all...

Your experience is nice and all, but it is also total crap. I downloaded both Tiesto - In My Memory [UK Edition], and Tiesto - Just Be and got a copy of the 2 Disc version of Ferry Corstens Right Of Way debut album from a friend, yet I still went out and bought two copies of each to support the artist. One copy of each was for me, and the other copies were b-day gifts for my little bro.

The reason I downloaded them first, I wanted to sample some of the remixes from the UK Edition of IMM and RoW to see if the 2nd Disc on each warranted the extra cash I was spending. As for Just Be... well I heard it was both awesome and crap so I wanted to find out for myself.

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Originally posted by bruddahmanmatt The reason I downloaded them first, I wanted to sample some of the remixes from the UK Edition of IMM and RoW to see if the 2nd Disc on each warranted the extra cash I was spending. As for Just Be... well I heard it was both awesome and crap so I wanted to find out for myself.

So what your saying is...you wanted a free listen before spending your cash, meaning if you hadn't liked either CD, you wouldn't have gone out and bought them? Back in the day there were no "free listens" you had to buy the album THEN decide if it was trash. So I'm sorry but thats still part of the problem, not the solution.

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this thread makes me giggle...


for the original author, instead of trying to scare people by mentioning their names, you should try and see if the quality of the track is good enough that they'd buy it..


lets say i enjoyed the track.. is it out on CD? can i buy it? i don't have a record player, so i can't & wont buy the record.. what do i do then?




everyone in the industry who bitches about mp3's should shut the fuck up.. if it wasn't for mp3's i garantee you 70% of certain genre's wouldn't be popular these days... i was never into trance, house, r&b, hip hop, etc until i was able to download it and listen to it.... from there i find what i like & buy what i like..



so in the end.. if you want to be successfull in music these days work with mp3s.. not against it

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You don't have to download full albums to see if they're good. All good online stores provide quality lengthy samples of each track. I just listened to the samples of Freefall to see if i'd like it and i do so i will buy it.

Onto the MP3's issue, I myself don't download but i'm not sure if its only because i don't have the means. Although I know i would still definately keep on buying the vinyl.

As for Andy's situation I really don't know what to say about it. You need to provide copies to people to build hype but you don't want people downloading it. I suppose your trust could be misplaced. But thats your descision to make and not mine.

All I can say is I'm sorry about what happened to you and hope you can get something out of this.

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Originally posted by BigTongue lets say i enjoyed the track.. is it out on CD? can i buy it? i don't have a record player, so i can't & wont buy the record.. what do i do then? everyone in the industry who bitches about mp3's should shut the fuck up.. if it wasn't for mp3's i garantee you 70% of certain genre's wouldn't be popular these days... i was never into trance, house, r&b, hip hop, etc until i was able to download it and listen to it.... from there i find what i like & buy what i like..

*yawn*

digital downloads kid are the way forward, but i imagine you don't even have two hoots towards that as you've got the belief that its your god given right to listen to artists hard work without paying a penny for it.

People who support the filesharing only come up with the claim that its publicity, which is crap, radio shows is what gives the big percentage of hype for sales.

Its like going to a car showroom, every car is opened and has the keys in itfor you to take a test drive, but because its free and you have the keys you wont pay for it.

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bottom line...downloading made the scene huge..if it wasnt for mp3's the scene wouldnt have reached the US or Asia or remote part of the worlds..it would have been stuck in europe with 4 or 5 djs only..now everybody and thier mother spins or produce tracks. the scene is huge..dj's booked solid makin 10-50 k for a couple of hours, concerts sellin out and festivals with 50,000 people...all that is due to mp3's..the EDM scene would be NOTHING absolutely NOTHING without mp3s..u would have 4 or 5 djs makin a couple of thousands in small clubs in europe and thats about it. take away downloading and in a year the scene will be dead and nobody will ever know about upcoming labels or producers.

that is exactly right no? you test drive a car, and if you like it you buy it? i don't see ford bitching & complaining...


and "you people" that support the file sharing? if you're going to tell me you don't have one illegally downloaded mp3 on your computer, or cd or anything.. i dont care if it's an oldies track, or something you can't find anymore i really don't think i'd believe you..

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Originally posted by BigTongue that is exactly right no? you test drive a car, and if you like it you buy it? i don't see ford bitching & complaining... and "you people" that support the file sharing? if you're going to tell me you don't have one illegally downloaded mp3 on your computer, or cd or anything.. i dont care if it's an oldies track, or something you can't find anymore i really don't think i'd believe you..

dude this site was built on downloads..it had a bunch of tracks and sets for download and updated every couple of weeks not twice a year..most people found this site from mp3 tags they downloaded from napster..TA would have been nothing without mp3s and so is the scene..i used to come on the site to download and registered on the forum because i was lookin for the video of rapture lol..mp3s made TA what it is today and the scene too..such a shame we turn our back on it.