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Originally posted by -=M=- VW = VW Audi = Audi they are most definately not one in the same

vw is owned by audi
but they are definately in different target markets thats for sure

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Originally posted by -=M=- i'll be picking up one of these within a week no mods either, i get to do everything myself

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Originally posted by Spartan Honestly, most of these opinions I hear about American cars are just uninformed banter. Almost all of the major Japanese car companies have some of their factories in the United States, made by American workers. Comments like "American cars are poorly made" just don't make any sense, at least not in todays global automarket. Mercedes-Benz is a German company, but they just switched a lot of their plants over to Mexico, and now their newer cars are falling apart all over the place. You can't make generalizations based simply on the mother-country of the car brand.

Sure other countries purchase foreign brands into theirs, but the whole point is who's making the cars and designing them and that's the motherland. So when one says American cars are poorly made, it's generalizing American brands, not foreign brands brought into America.

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Originally posted by basd You're referring to one of these? (For the Toyota). Or these? (For the Scion). Yes, I think they're ugly.

I don't like the bottom one, but the top, I assume a Supra, is sick. Also, the look of a clean civic SI, not too riced out, I find beautiful.

As far as American cars go. I will probably never own one. I think they look a hell of a lot cooler than they drive, most of the time. I'm not saying I wouldn't accept a free one, but I wouldn't spend my money on it. Just my opinion. I know a lot of people that love American cars. I will probably never own another German car either, due to the ridiculous maintenance and repair costs. Civic's aren't the nicest cars out there, nor the fastest (although you can make em pretty fast), but they are reliable and the cost for parts and maintenance is so minimal.

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Originally posted by Drifter vw is owned by audi but they are definately in different target markets thats for sure

other way around. VW owns Audi. and yes, they are very similar...the A4 and the fully loaded passat...similar interior features...that sort of stuff.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

American cars are largely sucky and have been cause they were designed for the north-midwest where roads and shitty and plentiful (esp MI) and where ice salt is rampant so peeps lease cars and get new ones every 2 years at the longest. therefore they dont have to last and all have shit suspension. American car is a misnomer, as mentioned tho, since most are made in CA or MX|

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Originally posted by Slylee other way around. VW owns Audi. and yes, they are very similar...the A4 and the fully loaded passat...similar interior features...that sort of stuff.

i was always under the impression that it was audi that owned vw....checked it out your right,at least i learnt my thing for the day

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Originally posted by Trancer85 Sure other countries purchase foreign brands into theirs, but the whole point is who's making the cars and designing them and that's the motherland. So when one says American cars are poorly made, it's generalizing American brands, not foreign brands brought into America.

Ah, we had a miscommunication then. Poorly put together versus poorly designed. Everyone has a different opinion on which cars have better designs I guess, it's why there are so many cars out there. However I wouldn't be quick to generalize, I've worked on lots of cars and found many within each brand that were both great and terrible.

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American cars are largely sucky and have been cause they were designed for the north-midwest where roads and shitty and plentiful (esp MI) and where ice salt is rampant so peeps lease cars and get new ones every 2 years at the longest. therefore they dont have to last and all have shit suspension.

As for that comment, I don't know what you are smoking buddy but that is completely not true. I'm not even gonna bother.

I won't lie though that if I were buying a sedan or sports coupe I wouldn't go American right now, imports are just too tempting. I seriously think that current Nissan's have some of the best V6 engines ever built. However if I were buying a truck, it'd be an easy decision to stay American.