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Originally posted by Gekhous time to step in again!! WTF IS WRONG WITH U FOOL?!?!? ur saying that it doesnt matter if this turns out in WW3, just because now, u might have a bit of fucking revenge?!?!?! maybe u should join the fucking Taliban u moron!!! read back in this thread man, Afghanistan is in these problems partly cuz of the US!!! y do we have to keep repeating ourselves?? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, bombing Afghanistan like this, THAZ a good solution!!! u happen to know y those countries still use old ways of living, right?? cuz this quote is BULLSHIT!!!!! those ppl cant help it their r no western country, with all the money we have, with all the high tech weve got, with the eZ living we got, dont u think ppl from 3rd world countries would wanna live the way we do?? i can assure u, ppl dont live in misory for fun!! and the end of his rampage of bullshit, im not even gonna react on, cuz also that was discussed before...

u serioulsy think us is to blame for there economic struggle ..give me a break ..... there to blame for them selfs.... u act like there children and the US is relsponsible for them..give me a break hahaha what a joke

and im not talking about the afanistan innocent people
im talking about terriorist..and the governments who support them.... and i dont want to see innocent people dieing but there is always in war...and US isnt to blame for it ..cuz afganistan goverment is as much or even more to blame then the US if there people die!

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Originally posted by TranceCluber Germany had those same sactions put on them after WW2 and they prospured so fast

LOOOOOOOOL what a comment! How old are you? 10? Do you know anything about the history OUTSIDE the USA? Germany is not from the same kind of country as Afganistan!
First: look at germany itself. you speak about ww2, what happened after ww1? they have put sanctions on germany as well, and they caused all the adolf-hitler-mess! Sure you cant say thats the only reason, but it gave AH perfect material to convince people of his propaganda.
second: Germany is a power-state in the past and now. they were in the top-class of the world. AND they had never problems with supressors AND they could develope free. Afghanistan on the other hand, waas never free and they couldnt develope how THEY want. Not every country has the same kind of people and not every country develope the same. UK, USA, France, Germany, Switzerland, etc. could all develope how they want and they had never to give their oil or other essential ware (dont know the name, its called "rohstoffe" in german) to an imperialist for a long period. Afghansitan was raped by Europe (US play just aminor part, because the big damage was cause in the 1900s and not today. But it dont give them the right to continue the way of imperialism now).
And to say that they should modernise like us is some stupid comment as well. they have to go through their own developement. You cant give them today-weapons and let them there (that whats the US and Russia did), because weapons of today parted with minds of the middle-age is very dangerous! (what if AH had a-bombs?).
So please think before you post!

oh I just saw you are from germany. that confuses me even more!

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Originally posted by TranceCluber u serioulsy think us is to blame for there economic struggle ..give me a break ..... there to blame for them selfs.... u act like there children and the US is relsponsible for them..give me a break hahaha what a joke and im not talking about the afanistan innocent people im talking about terriorist..and the governments who support them.... and i dont want to see innocent people dieing but there is always in war...and US isnt to blame for it ..cuz afganistan goverment is as much or even more to blame then the US if there people die!

man, this must be one of the most stupid posts in this entire thread!!!

the US is partly to blame for their economic struggle, cuz they "helped" them during the war against Russia, but let them in ruins, a totally fucked up country...

"and im not talking about the afanistan innocent people
im talking about terriorist..and the governments who support them...."

i cant even think of a reaction to this, the total stupidity just stunned me!!!!

and wtf did the Afghanistan government do to the US so they r to blame 2??

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Originally posted by Gekhous and wtf did the Afghanistan government do to the US so they r to blame 2??

..this comment alone shows how out of touch with reality you are. You've posted many other things in your previous posts that were so stupid that I was like, To respond to this comment, the government of Afghanistan refused to hand over the terrorists, thereby siding with them. In reality bin Laden has been able to carry out his terror in the past in part with the aid and encouragement of the Taliban, who harbor him in many ways.

You're acting very childish and immature. But, besides, I think I know why your avatar is a creature holding his hands over the head. It's a perfect reflection of your mental problems.

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to us it seems that the taliban is indeed with the terrorists. But, no country!!!!!, will ship a guest, who is betrayed as a god (some wicked social-rule in these countries) and better as its own people, to a foreign country, who is btw the "enemy" of practical all islamic countries without proof!!!! There may be proof that Osama did it, and the US showed many countries their proofs, but not the Taliban.

Im eagerly waiting for the day where everybody can see how your own henry kissinger has commited war crimes. It will be the day, the US will or better should face the hand-over of kissinger. Im wondering if this happen, but I dont think so. The US is against an international "Gerichtshof" and I havent read a good reason why! Perhaps because Americans could face a tribunal???

hee hee kissenger is a war criminal thats funny i got my laugh of the day thanx bro!anyway isnt there a war crimes tribunal in europe isnt that where slobidon milosivich is or was tried ....yep i thought so
and i hate to admit it but the US is partly responsible for the situation with the Talibon and heres the reason- where the CIA supplied arms and training to the mujhadeen in the 80's and early 90's to help defeat the soviets we helped destabilize the region and when the war was over we the US left. we didnt help rebuild or give economic support. so when any region becomes so destabilized it becomes a breeding ground for tyranical leadership to prospere.so this talibon group rose to power by force not the will of the people.
US policy is we do not negotiate with terrorist... you negotiate with them you lose so im curious as to what all of you people who think the us is going about this the wrong way what do you think should be done? you guys bash our policy but give no reasonable solutions so lets hear the brilliant ideas

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Originally posted by juzfugen hee hee kissenger is a war criminal thats funny i got my laugh of the day thanx bro!anyway isnt there a war crimes tribunal in europe isnt that where slobidon milosivich is or was tried ....yep i thought so and i hate to admit it but the US is partly responsible for the situation with the Talibon and heres the reason- where the CIA supplied arms and training to the mujhadeen in the 80's and early 90's to help defeat the soviets we helped destabilize the region and when the war was over we the US left. we didnt help rebuild or give economic support. so when any region becomes so destabilized it becomes a breeding ground for tyranical leadership to prospere.so this talibon group rose to power by force not the will of the people. US policy is we do not negotiate with terrorist... you negotiate with them you lose so im curious as to what all of you people who think the us is going about this the wrong way what do you think should be done? you guys bash our policy but give no reasonable solutions so lets hear the brilliant ideas

yup i agree.. all u bash but have no solutions to the problem which are better...anyone can talk but actually doing something and having a solution which is better then the one ur opposing that i havent heard yet at all...

I dont mean to jump in here and be all me too, but I would find it interesting to hear solutions FROM BOTH SIDES rather than just watch 4 TAs call each other stupid, cause throughout all these arguments, thats about all you guys boil down to...no offense, I gave up with this thread a long time ago cause nobody was saying anything important at all. If this thread was once an intelligent discussion, it is no more...late/PEACE

Yeah its very difficult to find a solution, because this "problem" is so complicated and cant be solved by a pair of bombs. In general the US should follow two ways. First they should find and punish those who did that attack (no one can do that without getting punished, else we could introduce the anarchy), but they MUST also question their own policy, cos these attacks dont occur by nothing. And if there isnt a good solution in sight it doesnt make sense to put some bombs on afghanistan just to do something.

and that DenHaag-thing is a one sided not-international tribunal!

oh and it was clear that you dont think kissinger is a criminal like some muslim think osama is not a terrorist. Yes he won the novel price of peace, but arafat won that too!