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@alex: you use surprisingly few layers (Y)

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 Endre, I agree with you totally. But I believe Reason has a threshold to what you can do. Your tracks are great but follow a more layed back mellow tone, which is fine for that Anjunabeats style trance where leads aren't overpowering a track. But Corbitt's track is a harder more melodic epic production (with that BIG sound)where leads stand up in the forefront and need to big , massive and loud. That's where reason takes a dives, cause the more you layer, the quicker the sound distorts and results in unwanted artifacts.

First of all, i was kinda saying that you should be respected with your opnion, so i wasn't against you.

But am against your points, and thats the only thing i say, nothing els.

However i do agree. Reason is not made for energetic or hardtrance, the synths are just to weak, but then MK-S made his Frenzy remix with it, and i consider that one really uplifting.

I made an attempt, Furor was the result, it was the hardest thing i ever made and i can't repeat that anymore, it's really a pain in the ass to make something energetic in Reason but not totally impossible.

Here is Furor if you are Curious, i do like my synth result(all subtractor, bass, synths, pads, acids etc.)
http://fahad.johnsteenbergen.com/
download from index.

Main synth after break, 2 subs.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

First of all.. All the people who are bashing Reason need to shut the fuck up, because they don't know what they are talking about. I've used Reason for some years now and so far all my productions which are released are made with it. I used those 'big leads' trancenrg69 was talking about, and it sounded just fine. Some people were even amazed by the quality as they didn't expect it to come out of Reason.

BUT!

There's a big but here.. I've put LOTS of time in Reason to be able to achieve this quality. I can tell you, it's not easy. It begins with a simple sample. When you listen to the sample in WinAMP or just a random audioplayer it sounds nice. But when you import it into Reason, the power has gone. I've sometimes tweaked over 2 hours to get a decent kick sound. That's a waste of time imo.

Now I've switched to Cubase, just because I wanted to know what it was capable of. I had a meeting with Arizona (from Octagen & Arizona) and he learnt me the ins & outs of Cubase while working on a collaboration. I was amazed by the power of Cubase.

- Going back to importing a kicksample; The kick sounded fine right away. Hardly any EQing was needed!

- Then the possibility of using VSTs. You can use more sounds and more effects which is great!!

- Audio support. I've had a Roland JP-8000 for some time now, but I never used it a production. I've tried multisampling it to import it into Reason, but the quality sucks. So I'm glad I can finally use my synth.

- People who still want to use Reason have no problem.. just ReWire it!

On top of all this, Cubase has a better audio engine. Mixing is alot more easy than in Reason. If you have 20/30 sounds playing simultaneously it's hard to get a perfect mix in Reason. In Cubase it's a different story, I can tell..

So, I'm not bashing Reason at all. It has helped me alot and it's a great application. It's easy to start with, but eventually you will end up at the point that you want more, which you can get in Cubase.

I hope this helped abit. And please stop bashing every app you don't use because you think yours is better...

Galen

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Originally posted by Passiva please stop bashing every app you don't use because you think yours is better... Galen

my sentiments exactly, i use fruity and that's got me stuff released, altho i would like to use cubase, but it doesnt work very well with the virus

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why not? (cuz it works fine with my synths)

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Woo - hoo!! It must be at least a week since we had a thread bitching about Reason

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Originally posted by Luke Terry my sentiments exactly, i use fruity and that's got me stuff released, altho i would like to use cubase, but it doesnt work very well with the virus

What problems have you been having Luke?

i assume something to do with not being able to use the virus. oh yea, you know the preset player on the access website? please tell me those arent actual virus presets because if they are, im stacking 4 to 5 vanguards on top of each other, layering, EQing and it still doesnt compare to the thickness of one of their (supposed) presets. when i heard those audio demos i felt like i was making 20 times more work for myself trying to build instruments...maybe im doing something wrong. i couldnt get a nord lead 2x to sound that fat either. nowhere near actually...

congratulations with your choice, vanguard was the proper synth for you.

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i assume something to do with not being able to use the virus. oh yea, you know the preset player on the access website? please tell me those arent actual virus presets because if they are, im stacking 4 to 5 vanguards on top of each other, layering, EQing and it still doesnt compare to the thickness of one of their (supposed) presets. when i heard those audio demos i felt like i was making 20 times more work for myself trying to build instruments...maybe im doing something wrong. i couldnt get a nord lead 2x to sound that fat either. nowhere near actually...

Those presets on the access virus and exactly what they sound like, not even as good cause theyre encoded into that player. Virus is super phat, i owned a nl3 and couldnt get leads that fat on it. with the virus its a joke with unison.

Why do people crap on so hard about which one is the best. I use both Logic and Reason and have for a while. There are so many appz out there which are good for specific purposes, why not use them all where they excel...

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*yawn* so I started taking these new pills.. VST-Grow.. makes my penis GARGANTUAN by taking it.. or at least.. bigger than everyone's who uses Reason...

i 4m 1337 4nD jU R n07

*slaps everyone in the face* w00p w00p w00p w00p *runs away in a three stooges fasion using his fingers to make horns on the sides of his head*

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