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pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion

Registered: Jul 2002
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youre an articulate lil fvcker aint ya renegade?? and i agree generally with your post.
in my defence a lot of what i had to say was tongue in cheek. i do have a few issues id like to mention:
\"This is the problem though: what constitutes self-defence and what constitutes unjustified aggression?\" -if you are attacked by anyone, you have the right to fight back until that threat has been removed. thats obviously up to interpretation, but then again so is the law.
girls are physically smaller than guys, as a general rule. but i dont think thats the reason most men have a problem with hitting a girl. i think its a paternalistic sentiment; ie how many guys have hit a guy physically smaller than themselves?? and i think thats fundamentally flawed. you\'ll find a lot of the problems between the sexes has been the historic tendency to treat them differently, which i strongly disagree with.
what im unhappy about is a attitude that elevates the problem of violence against women above violence in general. violence is wrong, against men or women. and i strongly disagree with your argument that \"a man hitting a woman and a woman hitting a man are not \"equal\" actions\". its as though youre putting the woman in the \"underdog\" status which i think isnt necessarily true, and largely patronising. men and women are about as talented as each other at fighting; seriously, without training we\'re both pretty useless. but even if we are always stronger and capable of more harm, i disagree that this gives us a greater duty of care. as i am only advocating the right for someone to defend themselves, im sorry, but if a chick attacks a guy, im one of those people that believes in just desserts.
\"Is mere \"intent\" a good enough reason to cause physical harm to someone else? At what point do you decide that you have the right to hit a woman? When she hits you first? When she looks at you a bit funny? And why is it that your friends exempt from this policy, but random strangers aren\'t?\"
those questions are all equitably asked if you remove the gender bias from them; ie at what point do you decide that you have the right to hit a PERSON? i simply do not make the distinction. and, i am predisposed to *not* hitting my friends, male or female. we all treat our buddies with more care and consideration than we do randoms.
\"Chivalry may be dead, but morality isn\'t. Opposing violence against women isn\'t about antiquated ettiquette, it\'s about common human decency.\" again, i would agree with you if your statement did not include a gender bias.
i still havent seen anything on here that comes close to explaining why violence is bad, but violence against women is worse, if the contexts remain the same.
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Aesthetic
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: somewhere between the melody and the pads
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Dec-13-2004 04:07
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Anomyst
www.interview.net.au
Registered: May 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Hey Stips,
You should have pushed her away, to the ground and strategicly in mud of some sort, dog poo is ok as well! Then picked up the closest large object, first pref Wheelie Bin or even her letterbox and thrown it through her front windscreen, oh and bang your fists on your chest. Shout some nasty jibberish at her and pretend to place a spell on her that she will be infertile!! Now head to the vet and pick up some of that stuff they use to make cows infertile (May be a bit of an effort to get but hey it seems you have a cow on your hands!!) Grab a nice box of chockies load em up with 'unbaby juice' and go and apologise.. presenting her with the chocolates..
She will think the curse you placed on her is true...
hehe revenge..
silly bitch!
Dont punch her you could hurt your hand, cause i think by the way she acted she may have a THICK head!!
Express your anger in randrom dribble, its hard but if you have met my girlfriend (As some of you have) you will know its a battle won and never lost. Be the king of your casle! and remember your throne is taller than hers
Werd.
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The actions or ideas have never been done before, i did not write this, it wrote itself, i bare no responsiblity if he does it.
I dont exist
You dont know me
Go away, stop reading
Dont do it
Drugs are bad
Mmmmm - Kahhhyy
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Dec-13-2004 05:54
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tachyon
we shall DOMINATE.

Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Melbourne, the MC domination central.
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Dec-13-2004 07:32
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Paulie
Losing My Religion

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: NomansLand
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http://videos.shooshtime.com/vids/361898622886c281e966e00759550714_bitch_slap20-928.wmv
Someone say Equality?

edit: gotta cut paste link in browser.
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That's me in the corner, That's me in the spotlight, I'm Losing my religion, Trying to keep up with you ,And I don't know if I can do it, Oh no, I've said too much,I haven't said enough, I thought that I heard you laughing, I thought that I heard you sing, I think I thought I saw you try.
But that was just a dream, That was just a dream, But that was just a dream, Try, cry, why try? That was just a dream ,Just a dream, just a dream, Dream
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Dec-28-2004 00:13
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Fpcookie
yehboi

Registered: Oct 2004
Location: melbourne
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Dec-28-2004 01:05
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Paulie
Losing My Religion

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: NomansLand
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LOL relax
1. Its not real.
2. Which girl in their right mind would say "dont hold back"
3. The guy is still laughing while shes knocked out, which gives it completely away.
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Oh, life is bigger ,It's bigger than you,And you are not me,The lengths that I will go to, The distance in your eyes ,Oh no, I've said too much, I set it up
That's me in the corner, That's me in the spotlight, I'm Losing my religion, Trying to keep up with you ,And I don't know if I can do it, Oh no, I've said too much,I haven't said enough, I thought that I heard you laughing, I thought that I heard you sing, I think I thought I saw you try.
But that was just a dream, That was just a dream, But that was just a dream, Try, cry, why try? That was just a dream ,Just a dream, just a dream, Dream
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