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Originally posted by George Smiley I live in an area full of Muslims....

.... you just proved my point.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf .... you just proved my point.

How?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Your talking out of your ignorant prejudiced arse aren't you?

will you recuse yourself and stfu and admit that you're wrong if i show you a picture of a muslim dude wearing a sword within his necklace???!?

damn it, you are the only ignorant fool in this thread!

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Originally posted by George Smiley How?

Muslims in Europe.

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http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20...84155-2847r.htm

The Washington Times
www.washingtontimes.com

The emerging 'Eurabia'

By Diana West

Published February 18, 2005
It was just a coincidence that "Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis" appeared in the mail the same day a New York Times article on the subject of Eurabia landed on the doorstep. "Eurabia," the long-awaited book by Bat Ye'or, is a comprehensive, even overwhelming and absolutely shocking explication of how and why it is that Europe is transforming itself into what the Egyptian-born historian calls "a new geopolitical entity " Eurabia." The New York Times article, on the other hand, a muddled analysis by Craig S. Smith about the "fear of Islamists" and the "far right" in Belgium, is one more illustration of how desperately Bat Ye'or's trail-blazing work is needed.
Few of us have the long-view vision to make sense of the sweep of history as it smokes past our eyes; Bat Ye'or, as a historian of Islam, and, in particular, the dhimmi (the non-Muslim peoples who live as second-class citizens under Islamic rule), has precisely the laser-lens required. She also has the fortitude of the historian/gumshoe to wade through the stacks of articles, memoranda and conference declarations generated by something called the Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD).
Created 30-odd years ago at the instigation of France and the Arab League, the practically unknown EAD has provided structural and theoretical underpinnings to a Euro-Arab axis " Eurabia. These have fostered the political, economic and cultural bonds between Europe and the Arab world that Bat Ye'or maintains were designed to create "a global alternative to American power."
How? Very basically " and this is detailed in the book " by shepherding a meeting of Euro-Arab minds, first and foremost, on the Arab League war on Israel. This would come about in exchange for freely flowing Arab oil into Europe, which would come about in exchange for freely flowing Muslim immigration into Europe, which would come about in exchange for research and development and labor and education and tourism and cultural ties between the Europe and the Arab world... which would all come about with an increasing independence of, and, indeed, hostility toward America.
This goes a long way toward explaining the behavior of Old Europe " the heart of Eurabia " since September 11. It also leaves a question hanging when the New York Times pegs Muslim immigration into Europe to a simple "postwar labor shortage": Is that really all the news that's fit to print?
Trying to assess the rise of the anti-immigration party Vlaams Belang, which represents almost a quarter of the Belgian electorate today, the New York Times reporter seems perplexed. This is how I think he thinks: To be anti-immigration is to be, as he puts it, "far right" or "extreme right." And to be "far right" or "extreme right" is to be very, very bad. Weren't Nazis both far and extreme right " or is that the Republican Party? Whatever.
He knows Islam is a religion, although he doesn't seem to know it is also a political system. And to be prejudiced against religiosity (but not Christianity or Zionism) is very, very bad also. So, Mr. Smith writes: "Many people" " himself, for instance?" " "worry that the appeal of anti-Islamic politics will continue to spread as the European Muslim population grows." No mention, of course, that to be "anti-Islamic politics" is to be anti-sharia law, which sounds perfectly Jeffersonian to me.
This, however, is beyond a guy who marvels " again, perplexed " that one of his interviewees, a son and grandson of Holocaust victims, has campaigned for "far right" Vlaams Belang. The poisonous animus for Jews (and Christians) contained within "Islamic politics," not to mention its totalitarian strictures, fails to move the reporter's silly sense of political direction. His compass tells him anti-immigrationists are on the "far right" (jackboots), while Muslims, he writes, join "left-leaning parties" (save the whales).
Then Mr. Smith interviews a Belgian Muslim whose son faces terror charges in Turkey for killing 61 people in a 2003 bombing, and who calls the September 11 attacks "a poetic act." In his, I suppose, "left-leaning" way, terror-dad "dismisses the far right's fears of an Islamization of Europe, even if he does dream of an Islamic theocracy governing the continent someday." Mr. Smith's conclusion? "In many ways, radical Islamists" " such as terror-dad " are holding Europe's broader, moderate Muslim population hostage, attracting attention disproportionate to their numbers."
I say the reporter is holding the New York Times' broader, moderate readership hostage. The facts shall set you free in Bat Ye'or's "Eurabia."




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Muslims are the cancer of this earth!!

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Originally posted by malek will you recuse yourself and stfu and admit that you're wrong if i show you a picture of a muslim dude wearing a sword within his necklace???!? damn it, you are the only ignorant fool in this thread!

No I wont shut up if you show me a Muslim with that scarf on. I will shut up however, if you show me a picture of every Muslim in the world with that scarf round their necks...(not holding my breath)

At the end of the day, I am not doubting that there are Muslim fundamentalists, its just I dont think they are in any kind of majority and I dont think even the fundamentalists are trying to conquer the world, feel free to provide any evidence you have that either a) the majority of Muslims are fanatics or b) Muslim fundamentalists are trying to conquer the world...(again, not holding my breath)

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf Muslims in Europe.

Shit really?! Well fuck me sideways...

Er...dont you have Muslims in America too?

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Originally posted by Nou Oh shit, muslims in southeast asia too! (the most muslims live in south east asia, read indonesia, phillipines, etc).... Who cares, this sounds like pretty much racist comments from a biggot... someone needs to close this thread because this is a forum for discussion of political issues, not posting your racial/religious hatred of other people.

Sometimes I just dont get people on this forum! You get a thread like this where there are countless people saying Muslims are evil, they want to take over the world bla bla bla...yet, this guy quotes ME as being racist and a biggot...

Nou...either you quoted the wrong person, you completely misunderstood what I actually wrote, or you are very very very stupid...which on is it?

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Originally posted by Nou yea dude i wasnt quoting you... should have space it out more... i have found that most people take something with three returns as being a different topic! like this I was commenting on your part then a seperate statment below it.

Ok sorry mate!

I was expecting a barrage of onslaught towards Islam, but I’m relieved to read that intelligence and knowledge prevail in society.

One has to ponder for a moment, "Why are terrorists prepared to sacrifice their lives for the sake of Islam" ? What is it about Islam that motivates these terrorists ?

The key to understanding Islam, is to read the Qu'ran and not the Hadith (which is so widely supported that Muslims give more importance to Hadiths - hence Mohammedans and NOT Islam)

Fact : Moses and Jesus are mentioned more times in the Qu'ran than Mohammed himself. Moses is mentioned 167 times, Jesus 28 times, and Mohammed a mere 4 times. Further substantiating the fact that Islam promotes integration and not segregation.