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iammesol
Burnt out and grown up



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Atlanta, USA

quote:
Originally posted by VietKid
how do we define intelligent?

i think eminem is intelligent, i mean he is very creative. em may be immature and say stupidness but that doesn't make him less intelligent.

the roots are intelligent also, they might not be as creative as eminem lyrically but they are like a rock band and play their own instruments too. they are positive ppl also.



w0rd, i've been saying this for years

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VietKid
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Maple ,GTA, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
i like his older stuff with the fugees, and his first solo album..


any fans of canadian hip hop?
swollen members.
moka only.
battle axe records
choclair
rascalz


whack, canadian hip hop is lacking alot. lyrically we are well behind.


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VietKid
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Maple ,GTA, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by GT_TraNcE
here are some of my fav hip hop tracks
Benefit-So sick
Jedi Mind Tricks - The Rage of Angels
Gangstar-The Revolutionist
Guru f. Master Ace-Conflict
Cage -Ballad of Worms
Immortal Technique -Internally Bleeding
Bless Feat Guru -My Time



and just about anything from Tribe called quest


gt_trance is a bitch yo, dont listen to this cat...


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VietKid
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Maple ,GTA, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by fissipissi
rap,hip-hop just as music = garbage

rap,hip-hop fans = they have no clue about real music


expand please?

what is your definiton of real music?

what is your definition of garbage?


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VietKid
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Maple ,GTA, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Hydarnes
ROFL...Tell me what on earth those lyrics have to do with the way the music sounds? Do you want me to quote hip-hop lyrics to "prove" that it's senseless and tacky?


Isnt there tacky music in trance?


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VietKid
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Maple ,GTA, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Hydarnes
Agreed.




No comment. I'll take Castles in the sky over anything america plays on the radio any day.


But 90% pf the best hip op is not heard on radio or tv.


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VietKid
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Maple ,GTA, Canada

Intelligent from my own perspective(not just political, positive)

Nas
2pac
Jadakiss
Eminem
Notorius B.I.G.
Roots
K-OS
Mos Def & Talib Kwelli
Outkast
Common
and More

Production Wise
Dr. Dre, Havoc, Kanye west


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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

quote:
Originally posted by arctic
Most of my favorites like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, the Roots, Common, Tribe Called Quest, X-Clan, Kool Keith, Arrested Development, Jurassic 5, Black Starr, Gang Starr, Afrika Bam, Immortal Technique, Jungle Brothers, J-Live, J-Zone, Deltron 3030, Dead Prez, The Coup, Spearhead and so on have already been mentioned, but how can you have an intelligent hip hop thread without mentioning Public Enemy or KRS-ONE & Boogie Down Productions? All of the Public Enemy albums (including Chuck D's solo disc and their recent stuff, believe it or not) are worth buying, the production work is amazing, not to mention the generally intelligent and thought provoking lyrics. The same goes for KRS-ONE, although the first BDP album is a little bit suspect with regards to the lyrical content.

I haven't seen anyone mention De La Soul either, they're mandatory listening if you're looking to get into intelligent, socially conscious old school stuff. I'd also recommend Paris. He can be a little bit over the top at times, but his albums are still very much worth getting. He's also handling production on the upcoming Public Enemy album, so it's definitely something to look forward to. I'd also recommend anything from Eric B. & Rakim - whilst I don't know if you could call it intelligent, the Rakim is probably the best MC ever in my view.

As for the people making snide comments about hip hop played on the radio, a majority of the artists discussed in this thread generally aren't given good radio play; they're often snubbed by radio and the industry in general; in essence, they don't chart. Anyhow, check out any of the artists mentioned; they're all worth listening to.



how did we forget de la soul!

Paris is awesome as well! i dont know anyone who has heard of him!!

solid post.


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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria

man de la soul r definatly the only hip hop sound i have ever enjoyed!
ooh also a little AUTOMATO?


shit is it just me that i can read what was really going to happen throughout this thread?

this tread is virtually formulaic! i knew what was coming about!
i have read over and over stuff like this before!

OF COURSE WE CAN NOT DEFINE GOOD MUSIC, BECAUSE GOOD MUSIC ONLY RELATES TO ONLY 1'S SATISFACTION.
the problem is when it comes to stuff like this is, people r trying to hard to define music and other stuff when you cant. we cant define certain things because we live in a world which we introduced an artificial lanuage and (structure) which we made up which has little resemblence to the real world. the only lanuage that comes close is mathmatics!
SO STOP ALL THE FLAMIN OF MUSICAL TASTES DUDES?


peace!! 8-)

but continue on about this thread please?

no one knows the true answer, but is there a true answer?

f#%# i hate boundries of imagination! (no not armins cd)

(sorry i talk some shit) it like late i goto go to bed?

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mto
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: FL, USA

I'm refusing to post anything, i've battled many idiots on this same subject.


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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

for people who dont like hip hop, most of you like fatboy slim, not all but a lot, and he is a crossover arist with roots both in hip hop and house, many a time has he showcased hip hop artists, palookaville definetely has a hip hop vibe, no doubt.

there is a compromise.


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dj tek
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Registered: Feb 2002
Location: TransFixedST8

quote:
Originally posted by dinoXpress
for people who dont like hip hop, most of you like fatboy slim, not all but a lot, and he is a crossover arist with roots both in hip hop and house, many a time has he showcased hip hop artists, palookaville definetely has a hip hop vibe, no doubt.

there is a compromise.

lots of crossover artists from hip hop... dave clarke, fatboy slim, joey beltram, mauro picotto, anthony pappa.....


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