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Originally posted by Traiden Just shut up, will you!? You don't have to know nothing about DJíng to know wether you like an artist or not.

But you do, to understand what the whole DJMag vote is about, and especially if you're going to argue that Tiesto is the best DJ in the world.

But since that's not going to happen no matter how many people I talk to about this, I'll just call you trance crackers stupid little ******s.

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Originally posted by kr00t0n Christ, do you EVER shut up?!!? I dislike Tiesto as much as the next person, but I still like trance, and a bunch of other genres for that matter. You elitists idiots really must lead boring lives. Trance crackers, stupid word.

You didn't understand what that post was about. It was a reply to the list of arguments that Tiesto is indeed the world's best DJ, arguments that are all flawed and unfounded, as Sand Leaper already pointed out.

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Originally posted by auranaut But you do, to understand what the whole DJMag vote is about, and especially if you're going to argue that Tiesto is the best DJ in the world. But since that's not going to happen no matter how many people I talk to about this, I'll just call you trance crackers stupid little ******s.

This thread started out with the question whether Tiësto was mixing live or not.

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Originally posted by auranaut You didn't understand what that post was about. It was a reply to the list of arguments that Tiesto is indeed the world's best DJ, arguments that are all flawed and unfounded, as Sand Leaper already pointed out.

I completely agree with that fact, I just dont like your constant sweeping generalizations of anyone who enjoys trance.

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Originally posted by Traiden This thread started out with the question whether Tiësto was mixing live or not.

Threads go off topic, don't blame me for it though.

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Originally posted by auranaut Threads go off topic, don't blame me for it though.

Well, actually, most of the time it is your fault when they are threads that you are involved in.

Auranaut, I don't like you...

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Originally posted by auranaut You didn't read my post, yet you replied in under a minute. If you're not going to read and understand what I'm saying, then please do fuck off. Thank you.

Actually I did read it. But seeing its midnight and I was reading quickly my concentration was slipping, so it was more like:
Tiesto bash
people abandoning trance
something about losing senses, don't know whether in relation to trance or Tiesto

The second paragraph gave me the idea you were talking about trance as a whole, seeing you decided to say that trance is a joke and all these djs have abandoned trance.

So from that, i assumed that amongst your Tiesto bash you were also launching an attack on trance as a whole.
hence, "yet you're on Tranceaddict". Cos you seem to be so intent on bashing trance and dismissing it as a joke (second paragraph)..........

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Originally posted by auranaut You Tiesto-loving fags are really amusing. You don't know shit about shit. You have no grasp of EDM as a whole. You lack objectivity. You think beat-matching is advanced. You don't know what fader-slamming is. You think playing well-known tracks is enough for someone to be voted #1 DJ. You are not aware of the interview with Dave Clarke that was mentioned before, which is supposed to be common knowledge, atleast when you're trying so hard to convince us that we're wrong. Oh, and even trance artists like Oliver Lieb think trance is a joke nowadays. Seb Fontaine, if anyone gives a shit about him, stopped playing trance soon after the epic trance boom. John Digweed and Timo Maas have also expressed their dislike for trance. But you wouldn't know that, you're too busy cleaning Tiesto's ass with your tongue. What else is there to say? You just got so totally butt-fucked you don't even know it, maybe because you've been screwed up the ass so much you've completely lost your senses down there. Trance crackers.

First of all, dont talk down to people like theyre bitches. Thats just rude.
Secondly, Digweed is a boring asshole nowadays who plays prog that would send a glass eye to sleep.
Third, I, nor anyone else Im guessing, gives a sh*t about Clarke or Hawtin or any other sucker hating trance. F*ck them, its our music.

Trance is not just a sound that assholes like to pigeon-hole, its the feeling you can get from any EDM track. Trance can be anything, not just soddin' bees-in-a-jar tracks that System F produced 7 years ago.

So auranaut, its pricks like you who get butt fucked for making out that you know it all
When you know, F*CK ALL

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Actually I did read it. But seeing its midnight and I was reading quickly my concentration was slipping, so it was more like: Tiesto bash people abandoning trance something about losing senses, don't know whether in relation to trance or Tiesto The second paragraph gave me the idea you were talking about trance as a whole, seeing you decided to say that trance is a joke and all these djs have abandoned trance. So from that, i assumed that amongst your Tiesto bash you were also launching an attack on trance as a whole. hence, "yet you're on Tranceaddict". Cos you seem to be so intent on bashing trance and dismissing it as a joke (second paragraph)..........

That's exactly how I read it.

Yeah, you're opinions are real legit here auranaut.

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Originally posted by tiestoisgod First of all, dont talk down to people like theyre bitches. Thats just rude. Secondly, Digweed is a boring asshole nowadays who plays prog that would send a glass eye to sleep. Third, I, nor anyone else Im guessing, gives a sh*t about Clarke or Hawtin or any other sucker hating trance. F*ck them, its our music. Trance is not just a sound that assholes like to pigeon-hole, its the feeling you can get from any EDM track. Trance can be anything, not just soddin' bees-in-a-jar tracks that System F produced 7 years ago. So auranaut, its pricks like you who get butt fucked for making out that you know it all When you know, F*CK ALL

Agree with the first part. There's a level of decency you need to treat people with, even if you disagree with their views.

The second part is just stupid. You're saying the exact opposite of Auranaut. A nasty comment about Digweed, because you don't like his style. He was pretty rockin, with Sasha, at Ultra "Carry On", so I'll disagree completely. I'd watch him over Tiesto anyday.

Guys like Clarke are gonna rip trance, because their techno guys. Techno guys usually hate trance.

Trance is a pretty shitty genre, right now. I started out as a trance dj, but I don't find a lot of good trance (in the 137 BPM range), like I used to a couple of years ago, and from the 2000-2002 era. Most djs are going to a more progressive sound, yet many maintain a melodic edge.

I think Tiesto is a sloppy dj, who fader slams a lot, mixes abruptly, and has trouble beatmatching too consistently throughout his sets. He knows how to program though, and, listening to ISOS4 at work right now, I must say it's the best thing I've heard from him in a long time. I'm just sick of his "Traffic" sounding synth songs, over and over. Good to see him vary it a bit.

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If u don't like trance/tiesto/armin/ASOT/genericsupersawanthemdutchtrance Orynaut, don't post in threads about it and keep your all devouring hate to yourself. Go make voodoodolls of Tiesto or something....

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